Let’s make Windows 10 the last version ever used!

*Sat. 28 Dec. 11h* Stage YELL #KDEEco 's Call To Action against e-waste driven by #Windows10.

https://events.ccc.de/congress/2024/hub/en/event/opt-green-coordinating-a-windows-10-to-linux-upcycling-campaign-across-free-software-communities-worldwide/

*Mon. 30 Dec. 13-15h* B&B habitat join the BoF to organize a global #FreeSoftware campaign to raise awareness of Windows 10’s EoL in 2025, the role of software in #eWaste, and how independent, sustainable #FOSS is a solution to keep devices in use & out of the landfill.

https://fahrplan.alpaka.space/jugend-hackt-38c3-2024/talk/ST8NJA/

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  • ⲇⲅⲇ@lemmy.ml
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    22 hours ago

    this whole conversation isn’t about my personal learning

    Sorry, I will use “a person” when trying to make examples not related with you.

    If you don’t care

    I’m super obsessed with Linux, I always tell people to use Linux, I try even the older people to get into Linux, I tell friends to install it and I try to help them. I’m really obsessed with Linux system, I really love it, and it hurts me when people just gets scared when I mention Linux (because that happened to me, some people don’t want to hear the “Linux” word).

    public image of “complicated”

    I think that’s what I was talking about Microsoft never going to allow to Linux be popular, they just want it to be a solution for programmers, they don’t want people to see Linux for a daily OS. The marketing and mass media is the main issue, if more users uses Linux, more companies will focus their apps for Linux. Until then, we need to read git source pages to see if they made the app for us (anyway, Wine should be able to run it if the app doesn’t have many requirements).

    isn’t just acceptable, but the norm

    It is possible to buy computers with Linux OS already installed, so you can just open the browser and search what you want to know what to do on Linux, for example video editing, you can use Kdenlive and many YouTube tutorials for Linux and you would do it also if you had Windows OS, unless you paid for a teacher, but when someone never touched a Windows, normally they need to seek for tutorials or guides, Windows and Linux has, but Windows is limited and Linux allows you to do much more.

    whole point of FOSS to help each other out for free

    The “F” in FOSS stands for “Free” and refers to free as in freedom, not just “free as in no cost.” You can commercialize your FOSS projects without problem, the whole point of FOSS is the freedom.

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      I think we’re talking in circles here. My point is: Telling people to go read the docs contributes to the perception of the linux community as closed and unhelpful. That perception doesn’t help with winning over more people. As you note:

      if more users uses Linux, more companies will focus their apps for Linux

      But that cycle has to start somewhere, and until companies start picking up, we need to do it ourselves, for ideological reasons if not monetary ones. Telling people to start out with easy guides is good, but redirecting further questions to docs and git pages builds a wall.

      Why should I do the reading for someone without pay? Because I can, I trust my understanding and I want to help them.

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        Telling people to start out with easy guides is good, but redirecting further questions to docs and git pages builds a wall.

        But there are hard and easy guides, just go to the easy guides. The times someone said to me to read the docs, they were right. Often when I want to start a post asking for help or reporting an issue I realize that issue has been reported already or documented before I finish writing it, because I do my searches while I write my issue adding context of it.

        If your skills aren’t good for that guide, start with something simple, I don’t know what kind of issue happens that what you are explaining.

        Why should I do the reading for someone without pay? Because I can, I trust my understanding and I want to help them.

        I do help anyone, no matter if they use Android, Linux, Windows, Apple… The best way to help them for me is to sit behind them and tell them what steps to take, often they ask me what to do, and then I tell them to read what is on the screen, the app window or the popup, and here I say, “just read, what does it say?” and the text they read is often the response to what they want to do.