• Draces@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    evil requires a level of maliciousness that transcends the people you are in physical contact with, imo

    That’s a very strange definition. He also led moving manufacturing to China. You may have heard of the suicide nets they had to put up in their facilities.

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      2 days ago

      ah, see, now that’s more like it.

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        that’ll do it for you, eh?

        as someone else pointed out, your definition of evil is quite interesting in that a qualification is that it goes past people they are in physical proximity to.

        not sure where you got that, seems a little comic-book-y… how about a nurse in a hospital that slowly poisons a child, watching doctors be baffled and see the parents fall apart with unspeakable grief because she likes the drama and was bored. not evil?

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          There are plenty of people who are jackasses to those around them, and ruthless in business.

          Describing someone or something as evil really calls for something a bit more dramatic.

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            2 days ago

            This.

            Use words accurately, or you dilute their meaning. Being a shit person is one thing, being evil is on another level. Conflating the real evil fuckers of this world with your average asshole diminishes the true depth of their awfulness.

            That said, yeah, brutal sweatshops in china were a thing before Apple moved out of his parents garage, so pushing for manufacturing there does indeed make him qualify.

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      I’ve never understood why it’s just Apple that seems to get the blame for using Foxconn, they’re estimated to make 40% of all consumer electronics. Nintendo uses them for all their consoles (since the GameCube), Sony use them for their hardware (TVs, the PlayStation, etc.), MS for the Xbox, Amazon for the Kindles, Google for the Pixels, etc.

      I don’t want this to sound like whataboutism, but I’ve just literally never understood why people seemingly overlook all the other companies using them to place the blame solely on Apple.

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      2 days ago

      I tend to agree. Being a narcissistic asshole isn’t the same as being evil. In the first case, it means doing bad things because you are self centered and have no regard for other people. The bad things aren’t done to hurt others, just to in a self serving way. Being evil requires an intent to do harm.