I don’t know where you got that opinion from. An echo chamber is an echo chamber and I think it’s a shame regardless of which flavour it is.
I’m here for open debate and freedom of expression, knowing that will mean having to see and read things I don’t like every now and again.
If other people want to block other users up to the point there’s no one else that has a different opinion to them, then they absolutely can do that but I thinks it’s just being an ostrich that sticks it’s head in the sand.
The only speech I don’t defend is hate speech. Everything else must be fair game, no matter how much I personally don’t like it or how much I disagree.
“You just don’t like people with different opinions about what types of humans should be eradicated. Not me, willing to have all sorts of conversations about ranking people in terms of who is subhuman.”
I think there’s a difference between blocking people that use hate speech and blocking those who you simply disagree with but I don’t know why I keep bothering to try explaining myself.
Enjoy your echo chamber, must be nice when there’s no-one that has a different opinion or disagrees with you.
So how I feel about this depends somewhat on which platform I’m on, but why do some try to paint it as a virtue to allow ourselves to be surrounded by toxicity?
I can be aware of what is happening in the world and engaged with people who have different opinions than I have without having to let them pollute the places where I just want to be able to exist without harassment and assholery. I can also make different decisions about how insular I want to be on one platform vs another. I don’t have to let those people into my life, and I frankly find it kind of offensive when folks suggest that I or others are somehow missing out by not letting them in.
No one should feel obligated to let themselves be the target of hateful rhetoric or comments that hurt them or bring negativity into their lives. Choosing to allow that is a valid choice, but it’s not necessarily a healthy one, and choosing not to allow it is a reasonable choice for people to make for themselves for the sake of their own health or happiness.
I agree that there is a huge difference between blocking hate (who the site should be blocking anyway due to breaching the community guidelines) and blocking someone you simply disagree with or are offended by.
When it comes to being offended it’s different, we can all agree that hate shouldn’t be tolerated, but offence is in the eye of the beholder.
I could block any users that I find to be offensive and live in a lovely online community where everyone agrees with me but I personally don’t want a community that doesn’t reflect the real world and I find it mentally unhealthy to pretend that offensive people and/or people with different points of view don’t exist.
My Lemmy blocklist has literally tripled since yesterday lol.
If we keep going, we can make this an echo chamber yet!
Kinda weird that its only an echo chamber when it leaves out the right.
I don’t know where you got that opinion from. An echo chamber is an echo chamber and I think it’s a shame regardless of which flavour it is.
I’m here for open debate and freedom of expression, knowing that will mean having to see and read things I don’t like every now and again.
If other people want to block other users up to the point there’s no one else that has a different opinion to them, then they absolutely can do that but I thinks it’s just being an ostrich that sticks it’s head in the sand.
Enlightened centrist?
I consider my self a lefty, but I think it’s important to consider all points of view, especially when I disagree with them.
That is good, but what value do they bring?
If nothing else, it’s practice for the next time you hear it, you can workout your arguments against it.
You can consider the nazi point of view (do you really need to though?) without defending nazis’ right to spew their bullshit.
And let’s face it, even if lemmy was 100% leftists, the rest of the world is fascist as fuck so it’ll never be an echo chamber.
The only speech I don’t defend is hate speech. Everything else must be fair game, no matter how much I personally don’t like it or how much I disagree.
Fascism implies hate speech, and that’s what the “right” is all about in most countries right now.
Aaaand blocked. Keep fellating Trump and Musk
I don’t like Trump or Musk, I just keep my head when all else about are losing theirs.
Enjoy your echo chamber, must be nice when there’s no-one that has a different opinion or disagrees with you.
“You just don’t like people with different opinions about what types of humans should be eradicated. Not me, willing to have all sorts of conversations about ranking people in terms of who is subhuman.”
I think there’s a difference between blocking people that use hate speech and blocking those who you simply disagree with but I don’t know why I keep bothering to try explaining myself.
So how I feel about this depends somewhat on which platform I’m on, but why do some try to paint it as a virtue to allow ourselves to be surrounded by toxicity?
I can be aware of what is happening in the world and engaged with people who have different opinions than I have without having to let them pollute the places where I just want to be able to exist without harassment and assholery. I can also make different decisions about how insular I want to be on one platform vs another. I don’t have to let those people into my life, and I frankly find it kind of offensive when folks suggest that I or others are somehow missing out by not letting them in.
No one should feel obligated to let themselves be the target of hateful rhetoric or comments that hurt them or bring negativity into their lives. Choosing to allow that is a valid choice, but it’s not necessarily a healthy one, and choosing not to allow it is a reasonable choice for people to make for themselves for the sake of their own health or happiness.
I agree that there is a huge difference between blocking hate (who the site should be blocking anyway due to breaching the community guidelines) and blocking someone you simply disagree with or are offended by.
When it comes to being offended it’s different, we can all agree that hate shouldn’t be tolerated, but offence is in the eye of the beholder.
I could block any users that I find to be offensive and live in a lovely online community where everyone agrees with me but I personally don’t want a community that doesn’t reflect the real world and I find it mentally unhealthy to pretend that offensive people and/or people with different points of view don’t exist.