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Israel has sparked global outrage after dropping leaflets over the besieged Gaza Strip, warning Palestinians to either cooperate with its forces or face forced displacement or eradication. The messages, written in Arabic, carried explicit threats, including the chilling statement: “The world map will not change if all the people of Gaza cease to exist.”
The move, condemned as a psychological warfare tactic, has intensified concerns over Israel’s military campaign in Gaza, with many seeing the leaflets as an open admission of ethnic cleansing.
The threats also reference a so-called “Trump plan”, aligning with recent remarks by US President Donald Trump. who suggested the mass expulsion of Gaza’s population to neighbouring countries. The posters featured images of Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who is facing accusations of war crimes and crimes against humanity and wanted by the IC
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Serious question. Is leaving an option? Is there some kinda line they can go stand in that will relocate them to another country?
Feels like that scene in Independence Day.
“What is it you want us to do?”
“DIE. DIEEEEEEEE!”
No, the borders to Egypt and Israel are closed. There are limited exceptions for medical treatment in Israel. Egypt let in people with the right paperwork (typically by paying a bribe) at the beginning of the war.
It’s very unusual for people not being able to flee from a warzone. Not giving them the option to leave is against the convention on refugees.
The Israeli navy makes it impossible to leave by boat.
Israel could allow Gazans to flee to the West Bank, but so far haven’t done so. Egypt also isn’t interested in opening the border so far, for fear of the refugees not being able to return at a later date. Egypt is afraid of another terrorist group in its country, especially one that threatens the peace with Israel.
“Israel has sparked global outrage”
YetI have to learn this from a fringe platform, so small it is allowed to report on these things.
There is no ‘global outrage’ , nobody even knows this.
Just as nobody has seen the horrificly malnourished Palestinian hostages .Sick ceasefire bro
Any other source on this?
Mainstream newspapers are too busy plastering Israeli propaganda on the frontpage. But here is Democracy Now!
As a German I’m absolutely horrified by this cruel and inhumane repetition of history.
As a multi-national, multi-ethnic, mutt, I am too.
Given that part of my mutt-makeup is Austrian, I’m offended that Austria and our northern neighbor have greatly contributed to this. Our deserved guilt over the Holocaust blinded us to decade after decade of human rights abuses by Israel.
We’ve seen this coming for a long time and, as a taxpaying contributor to the biggest funder of Israel, I’m ashamed.
Well if we keep solving religious persecution by allowing each group to fuck off to their own country, this will keep happening. Religion should not be the guide for any countries policy, its absurd.
Imagine there are people who want you dead for existing. They tell you to leave but you have nowhere to go, because they took your home and nobody wants you. You don’t have anything and aren’t even able to leave, even if you wanted to. So they come, they kill your family and they kill you.
Now imagine there are people in other parts of the world, they have everything and they didn’t even know you, but they consider it served you right.
This world is fucked up.
The Republican party would like to do the same thing to migrants here in the US. Instead they are taking them offsite to concentration camps in Panama and Guantanamo… That we know of so far.
Oh my god! Who the heck is supposed to help us all stop this?
They tell you to leave but
you have nowhere to go, because they took your home and nobody wants you.Actively block you from leaving and attack you when you try to leave via “safe routes”.
FTFY
Hey everyone, this guy is a mod who had previously banned pro Palestine comments a few months back. Neat to see you finally changed your mind on the active genocide.
As someone who has friends in Southern Lebanon who have been held at gunpoint by IDF forces and threatened with death, I’m pretty sure you’re confused.
And yet, here you are, banning me for arguing that palestinians have the right to defend themselves from a genocide.
Would you like to recant?
Nope, you got banned for being a terrible troll, another in a long line of band and comment removals.
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModBanFromCommunity&userId=3175314
Were they israeli friends that mistakenly got confused for Lebanese or Palestinians by the IDF?
Nope, Lebanese doctor who the IDF would raid in the middle of the night, tell him he would be shot if he resisted, hauled him off to treat some random prisoner, then dumped him at the side of the road when they had no more use for him. Happened ALL the time.
This wasn’t during the current illegal occupation of Lebanaon, or even the one before that, it was the one before that.
genocide much?
I wonder where the genocide deniers are now.
That’s impossible. We didn’t reelect Biden/Kamala.
Can I get a religious war with a side of genocide? Oh, it’s a package deal and I also get free racism? Cool.
the colonial project far supercedes religion here
Yeah, it was European colonialism with a side of antisemitism. Amazing how it turned out.
What many do not know is thar Theodor Herzl and even the first Israeli prime ministers were hardcore atheists. Zionism faced much opposition from religious Jews.
How Israel Went From Atheist Zionism to Jewish State
Zionism as a national movement that rebelled against historical Judaism was mainly atheistic. … Due to the sweeping opposition of the rabbis of Germany, Theodor Herzl was forced to transfer the First Zionist Congress from Munich to the Swiss city of Basel.
But beginning with the first stages in the consolidation and settlement of the Zionist movement, it was forced to meticulously sort and thoroughly nationalize some of the religious beliefs in order to turn them into nation-building myths.
here have some fun
This is really sick but at the same time that’s what you get for supporting monsters.
Let’s watch the zionists scramble to protect the settler colonial entity and calling the use of the word “genocide” an overreaction, or even more hilarious, antisemitic.
Fuck trump
But the guy that leveled Gaza for Trump is cool though, right?
It is entirely possible that more than one ass hole exists in the world. Having to explicitly name them all would make for a very long post.
Seeing that this entire post is about Gaza, there are 3 assholes.
Can’t we assume they can all get fucked? It’s weird to think a rational person would be condemning one but not the others.
The voting statistics say you assume wrong.
You can count the ‘rational persons’ condemning them in words yet voting for the genocide enabler out of purely selfish interest.
“Ohh, but Billy Bob who actually pulled the trigger with a smile is cool thought, right?”
There are way more than 3, even if you just confine yourself to the members of the IDF and don’t look at any of the other factions.
Without US money and weapons that IDF soldier wouldn’t have been able to pull the trigger. Right now there are 3 assholes, Biden, Harris, and Trump
Israel has a pretty significant domestic arms industry. I’m pretty sure they’d be fine without USAs help.
They are only able to have that significant arms industry because of money from the US
Election’s over, Harris lost. Deal with it.
Wont get over it, those that dont remember history are doomed to repeat it, exactly the way they repeated their failures from 2016 in 2024
Literally worse than Spez
Following through on this threat would likely result in another Arab-Israeli war.
Not with the US support that Israel has now.
Israel always had US support. The difference now are just words.
Oh look.
The thing we said would happen is gonna happen.
I didn’t vote for Harris because Trump didn’t do genocide
I wonder where all those people are now. Because they were REALLY active leading up to the election (and shortly after).
I wonder if they realize they were wrong.
EDIT: Oh, they’re here, just had to scroll more.
At a glance, no, they don’t seem to be taking responsibility, and even still seem to be taking the moral high ground.
Which suggests it wasn’t even astroturfing…lol
Harris and Biden prioritized continuing the genocide over beating Trump. They are to blame for this just as much as Trump
My stance was “Trump is going to make a lot of things worse, including the ongoing genocide in Gaza. You’re either for Trump or against Trump, and if you’re a single issue voter, you’re either voting in favour of, or against, making the genocide worse”.
Some people told me that the Democrats are definitely in favour of the genocide, but who knows what Trump would do! I told them everyone else knows. They told me it’s impossible to know because there was no genocide during Trump’s first term, but there was during Biden’s first term. So Trump is a safer bet for single issue voters.
Regardless, single issue (non-)voters have succeeded in making life much worse for Americans and Palestinians.
We would still be supporting Israel with Biden in place. The only difference is there would be a few “we are very concerned” statements from the White House press secretary instead of Trump’s reality TV show statements. But in the background, the same number of MK84 2,000lb bombs are being transported by the same military vehicles and they blow up on top of the same people.
Democrats happily stated they would support this as well. If only they tried being different.
Well good news! You don’t have to deal with Democrats anymore!
Have fun dealing with the Republicans on this now!
Thanks! Trump found out the same thing as Biden yesterday; Egypt and Jordan are not accepting the ethnic cleansing. Trump, like Biden, has walked back the plan.
Same shit. Different Nazi at the helm.
Yup no problem, glad you’re happy with how things turn out! Hope future elections work out for you in the same way! Go team Ned Flanders parents!
Pointing this little fact out on Reddit is hilarious as people go absolutely bananas.
I say people but they’re likely bots.
It’ll be interesting to see how the media companies deny that this is an open admission of genocide.
I’ve seen a couple of news articles saying the U.S. is setting itself up for another terrorist attack, but a couple of Americans have told me that’s not the case and they’re not worried about it… anyone have any insight into this they can offer?
I’ve seen a couple of news articles saying the U.S. is setting itself up for another terrorist attack
But why would the trump administration want an excuse to declare martial law?
Interesting. Thanks.
They still don’t really know why 9/11 happened, they still believe the ‘they hate us for our freedoms’ line.
They themselves made it happen.
Like they made ISIS happen.
The magically funded, equiped and and trained army of fanatics that 'hate us for our freedoms’ and curiously never attack the US or israel (only by accident and they apologised) and only shows up where the US wants regime change.Why do you think it happened?
Essentially blowback for decades of US military adventurism in the region. Bin Laden’s theory was that an attack that’s big enough would cause the US government to overreact and overreach, imploding the American Empire because Americans wouldn’t accept their civil liberties being taken away and Americans coming back from abroad in coffins.
Obviously Bin Laden was wrong about how much Americans would just be ok with everything the government ended up doing, and didn’t achieve his stated goal.
Maybe Bin’s plan will work now (even if he’s not around to see it), with how crazy Trump’s been acting? That’s actually a question.
In some ways it is potentially happening, but this is definitely not the timeline he had in mind, and you could blame macro trends like the rise of China instead.
If Bin Laden hadn’t done anything, millions in the Middle East wouldn’t have been killed, and the US would still be on its current trajectory.
https://www.axios.com/2025/02/14/arizona-voters-trump-elon-musk-executive-orders
Americans, on average, are totally ignorant. Don’t believe what we say lol.
Looked at the article… it’s really discouraging the way some Americans support and seem to love this guy. With everything he’s doing, do you think he’s setting the country up for another major terrorist attack?
Again, I’m an American, so don’t trust me, but…
I dunno? I could see Iran funding another assassination attempt (and I can hardly blame them if Trump goes through with the Gaza idea), and obviously there will be some holes in security agencies from firings, maybe a few local people who get pushed over the edge… but a terrorist attack seems low on our list of upcoming problems? Anti-terrorism efforts are still functioning, as far as I know.
What you might’ve seen in a lot of media is that pulling USAID and some other stuff will destabilize regions and turn some into terrorist breeding grounds, which could be true. The consquences of that may take some time to manifest though, maybe even past Trump’s term.
Hmm, you don’t sound very worried about it either… same as the other Americans I’ve asked. Like, unless I’m just not reading your tone right, I’m probably more worried about it than you are.
You’re right, I probably should be!
There’s just so much else going on! Are Trump/Musk like actually subverting the government and triggering a constitutional crisis? Is he actually gonna follow through with the crazier plans like strongarming Canada or colonizing Gaza? Are we getting pulled into a war? Will there be an economic crisis from some huge dysfunction? I am worried because Trump genuinely doesn’t seem to grasp a lot of things, especially foreign policy or technical matters, and worst case scenarios are pretty bad.
Like, if you told me, with certainty, there was a high probability of another 9/11 this month, I would freak out… But it wouldn’t even snuff out all those other stuff going on! It wouldn’t be like a Bush moment that defines his presidency and the era, it would just turn into a big controversial mess.
If it’s more like a unabomber attack or a smaller scale thing, honestly, it would blend into the stream of shock news. Trump would probably blame it on Democrats and politicize it, and everyone would take the bait. That sounds horrible, but it’s plausible.
I get what you’re saying… it’s overwhelming for us, and we’re in Canada… can’t imagine what it’s like for those of you who are right there and can see/understand what’s going on. The seeming lack of concern from some Americans makes perfect sense when you explain it that way. Thanks!
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Y’all getting the latter, definitely.
The guy’s definitely not winning any popularity contests.
Oh good. The chosen people have chosen ethnic cleansing and genocide, being implemented by the highest ranked goy in the world.
I relish in the fact that my comment calling Trump a Goy and Bibi a racist piece of shit along with his government got some people ruffled under their feathers.
Good thing you’re born with the right parents so you don’t get carpet bombed into oblivion by a nation that has no right to exist and wouldn’t exist if the US wasn’t in their back pocket.
Jews even hate Jews that aren’t the right colour or race of people.
But god forbid we criticize this slime for what is truly is. Horrific. But you stand tall from your internet podium.
Shame on you for calling me bigot when I’m defending people who have suffered at the hands of Zionist, Jews and Israel.
How long till this post gets removed as well? Cowards.
Zionists hate Jews which are not the right color. Your comment is doing a lot of conflating.
So this Wikipedia statement is factual then?
The arrival of Zionist settlers to Palestine during this period is widely seen as the start of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict. The Zionist claim to Palestine was based on the notion that the Jews’ historical right to the land outweighed that of the Arabs.
Ethiopians are not Arabs. Arabic Jews experience much less racism in Israel then Ethiopian ones.
Yes but it is important that in the past the word Jew got used a lot instead of Zionist. While factually correct, the sect doing behind the colonization of Palestine were all Zionists. A cow is an animal but an animal is not a cow type of beat. Whateverr reason they used was made up retroactively. Initially they thought about colonizing Uganda but then went for Palestine.
What makes it more confusing is that Zionists saw Jews as an ethnicity.
Whereas religious Jews did not define themselves by race but by religion.
25 people have upvoted this bigoted bullshit.
This is why I will always be labeled a Zionist no matter what I say or do. It doesn’t matter how much effort I have put into trying to stop this genocide or how much I condemn Israel… nothing I ever say or do will be enough because I happened to be born from certain parents.
I also never call anyone a goy, or consider myself chosen. Again though, that doesn’t matter. To at least 26 people on Lemmy. Probably far more.
Mean words on the internet vs War Crimes. Oh poor you, you’re so oppressed aren’t you.
I’m not always with FlyingSquid but I’m with him on this one. People on lemmy are oh so progressive but under the guise of "criticizing“ religion, you can get away with saying the most horrible shit and people will be celebrating you.
Like, what does Judaism as a religion have to do with Israel colonizing & genociding Palestinians? Yeah they call themselves Jewish and they want a Jewish ethnostate, I get that. The Nazis did the same thing without any religion, the Soviets & CCP as well. People are just horrible and will use any excuse to dehumanize, subdue, kill other people.
What do you achieve by comments like the top level one? The murderous bastards will just be like "oh antisemite buhu, anyway“ and the people just living their lives minding their own business or people active e.g. in JVP are being insulted for no good reason despite being on the right side of history.
I read it as a jab of the religious right in Israel that in large part are the die-hard supporters of the genocide and use do scripture as justification. However, I have to agree with that the post is wide open for other interpretations, including antisemitic ones. So it’s not a good post.
But all this “Woe is me” stuff i don’t get at all.
