Does anyone know of a similar comparison but with more modest GPUs, like maybe 3060 Ti or equivalent ? I feel like phoronix did something like that but I cant manage to find it
The real hard part of linux is decision. I’m indecisive af so deciding a distro and then a de took forever. I’m still going back and forth on gnome and plasma. My only issue with gnome is I cant seem to get my top bar centered (cant find extensions) and only in the middle which was easy on plasma.
If you are indecisive, and want to game, get Nobara.
Its pretty much ready to go out of the box, regularly updates, and has tools to make updating things like SteamTinkerLaunch and GEProton easy and effortless.
Went with cachy, works well.
Yeah the amount of choices is overwhelming. Luckily desktop environment shouldn’t make or break the experience for anyone. KDE is kind of buggy, but there are so many customization choices. Ultimately I still ended up preferring cinnamon.
What do you mean “centered”? The top bar is top, and the clock is centered.
On kde I can have a bottom bar plus a top bar that is only in the middle not the edges, I like the notch look, only way I can get a top bar in gnome is slightly notched it still goes all the way to the edge. Or I can have no bottom bar and then I can have the top bar centered using gnome to panel, but I like having both. Its just annoying to get exactly right unlike kde, but has more extensions I like right now. Idk, im having issues with extensions not working after reboot, like arcmenu, which i need for gnome to be usable, so far now ive swapped back to plasma.
I bounced between them both. Decided on Mint with Cinnamon because it just works without fuss.
cinnamon is like the perfect middle ground. it’s not as painful to use as gnome, not as buggy as kde, but it still has a ton of customization.
Yeah. I had a perfect gnome setup for myself, but then arc menu stopped working with dock to panel randomly and now wont turn on. No idea how to uninstall it.
I’ve been fighting kde on Kubuntu
Go for opensuse tw with plasma 😇then you have always the newest tested snapshot
fighting is a good way to describe it. i see why people like it, i just don’t know how they can stand it. i would love it if it was as stable as the others. btw kubuntu lts uses a very old plasma version, it’s probably going to be better if they ever finish updating it to 6.
yeah we tend to distrohop a bit before settling with something, and maybe something will change down the line that makes you wanna hop again.
its part of the process for some people.
Pretty decent video, thanks for sharing
The biggest crap is that I can’t play multiplayer games. If not for that I would switched a long time ago
Specifically multiplayer games which require kernel-level anti-cheat. It’s an extreme minority of multiplayer games.
Kernel-level anti-cheat is a privacy and security nightmare on Windows, too.
Deep Rock Galactic, Counter-Strike, BG3, Helldivers, Marvel Rivals, Dota, Deadlock, all supported. It’s a matter of bad game publishers/developers actively choosing not to support Linux, not the other way around.
The two major third party kernel level anti cheat have publically stated they have supported some level of their anti-cheat working on linux since 2021.
Easy Anti Cheat:
BattlEye:
All the devs/management has to do is actually use/enable this feature that is part of what they’re already paying for.
They’re paying to liscense/use the AC in designed for windows games, these ACs have supported linux via Proton and WINE for almost 4 years now, the game devs just don’t enable this compatability.
As you can see from the articles, with EAC and BattlEye… the process truly seems to be as simple a sending an email or checking a few boxes in a dev toolkit, and EAC/BattlEye does all the hard work, the game devs just need to do some testing and submit logs/error reports, and EAC/BattlEye iron out the rest.
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Many proprietary or less broadly used anti cheat solutions also work on linux.
Valve Anti Cheat
nProtect Game Guard
PunkBuster
TreyArch Anti Cheat
EQU8
FairFight
… all of these AC systems have at least one, usually multiple, very to moderately prominent games which use them, and are fully supported on linux.
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There is a ton of prevalent misinformation amongst gamers and devs and management as well, that common anti cheat systems are impossible to support on linux.
This is completely false.
What is happening is game developers either don’t care, or don’t bother to put in a modicum of effort to make their games work with third party systems with features they are already paying for, that do exist, that already support linux… or they are to incompetent to figure out how to make their games fully compatible with said AC SDKs they are already paying for / using / developed in house.
How many times have game developers in the last 5 years released a giant, buggy, unfinished mess?
How many times do we have to learn that making games that are far, far too client side authoritative actually need to have a whole lot of stuff be sandboxed, sanitized, and more server authoritative?
https://areweanticheatyet.com/
Scroll through this and you’ll find examples of almost every major different AC system working on linux in some games, and not working in some other games.
But most people act like its just completely impossible, across the board.
It obviously isn’t.
Many game devs or PR people or AC devs will publically state things that roughly equate to ‘it isn’t possible for our AC system and X game to work together on linux.’
This is again, obviously false, for almost every kind of AC system that exists, there exist fairly popular games that have gotten that AC system fully working.
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Beyond that, people will say things like ‘all linux users are hackers’ or something to that effect.
Again, this is obviously false.
A cursory look at websites that sell hacks for various games will show you they are all targeted at windows users.
These are actually substantially less likely to work on linux, as Proton and WINE and other translation layers are probably not going to be able to emulate the insane hacky exploits that work on a baremetal windows system.
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Oh, right. Last point: Many of the most popular sites and communities that sell hacks to windows users … well they defeat kernel level anti cheat systems.
So we arrive at a situation where game devs and gamers blame linux users for cheats linux users can’t use, and because of this, they clamor for and build increasingly invasive AC … that doesn’t even work to stop windows cheaters, but it does make legit linux users unable to play.
… The point of a complex system is what it does, not what it claims to do.
The problem is more that some games don’t work, but if that game is one you really want to play, that adds a very strong reason not to use it.
A lot of Linux users, especially the vocal ones, are very happy to just ignore the games they can’t play. Not everyone would agree with that.
I keep a Windows install in case there is a game that I want to play that works on Linux but I haven’t used it in months (mostly just to play VR)
That’s not exactly true. Some multiplayer games doesn’t work because the anti-cheat is not made to work on Linux.
Tbf anti-cheat at kernel level should be avoided at all cost anyhow. Its a major security risk. Break it and your entire system is compromised.that’s the type of anti-cheat that doesn’t work under linux.
