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    The argument you are getting and setting here seems to be a domestic one primarily, but I think from a foreign policy perspective it becomes much clearer, especially given what this post is about.

    US global hegemony after WWII rests on a several aspects, a few key ones of which are free trade with US dollar as the world reserve currency, a system of international alliances, and resulting from that the ability to have bases all over the world for immediate power projection anywhere.

    Trump is practically giving all of that away for no discernable reason whatsoever. He basically just publicly announced to all of Americas allies that your word, like as a country, is worth nothing.

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      And how has any of that damaged us? Give me some real world examples, not theory. What has changed? How are we damaged?

      My day isn’t any different. I’m doing and feeling awesome. What damage has Trump caused?

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          I think they are doing an awesome job. And so do the people who voted for him. Which so happens to be the majority of the voting public by the way. So seems a LOT of people disagree with you.

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            You can think they are, doesn’t make it true. A lot of people are regretting their vote, less than half of voters wanted trump. I’m happy that fascists, and their supporters disagree with me.

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        It has damaged your reputation as a country. It hasn’t damaged you domestically (yet), which is why I advised looking at it from a foreign policy perspective.

        And make no mistake, just giving up on global hegemony will hurt you domestically as well in the long run. Not that I’m opposed to it, on the contrary actually, it just strikes me as utterly misguided since it’s done for selfish, and I think foolish, reasons.

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          It has damaged your reputation as a country

          I don’t care about that. You all can fix your own shit. If you don’t like how we do something, then you all fucking do it. Everyone shit on us anyway. lololol

          And make no mistake, just giving up on global hegemony will hurt you domestically as well in the long run

          I don’t think so. We were carrying too much of the load and you all just bitched at us constantly. Now you can take care of your own shit.

          Again, if your country doesn’t like how we did something, then do it yourself.

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            I don’t care about that. You all can fix your own shit. If you don’t like how we do something, then you all fucking do it.

            You know what, if that is how you feel, fair enough actually. I just don’t think that’s how your former and current governments, including Trump, really feel about it.

            I don’t think so.

            You don’t think losing the US dollar as the world reserve currency would hurt you economically? Because that’s where this is going.

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              just don’t think that’s how your former and current governments, including Trump, really feel about it.

              Then you have nothing to worry about, right?

              Because that’s where this is going.

              Hasn’t happened yet.

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                Then you have nothing to worry about, right?

                The thing that worries me is that Trump seems to be consistently acting against the best interest of US foreign policy.

                Hasn’t happened yet.

                Alea iacta est.

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                  The thing that worries me is that Trump seems to be consistently acting against the best interest of US foreign policy.

                  According to your opinion. But you are not in charge. He is. And he’s doing what people who voted him in, asked him to do.

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                    According to your opinion. But you are not in charge. He is. And he’s doing what people who voted him in, asked him to do.

                    Well of course it’s just my opinion. I think it is pretty clear we disagree, no point arguing that. Just wanted to let you know my perspective, since that seems to be allowed here instead of being an echo chamber, which I respect. But you seem to be hell-bent on learning this lesson on a personal level, so no stopping you I guess. Kind regards from Germany.