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An article about Kagi’s leadership, uncontroversially titled “Why I lost faith in Kagi.” If anyone has updates to add here, good or bad, I’d appreciate it.
Between the absolute blase attitude towards privacy, the 100% dedication to AI being the future of search, and the completely misguided use of the company’s limited funds, I honestly can’t see Kagi as something I could ever recommend to people.
…and I’m surprised this quote doesn’t mention the CEO, considering what the blog post has to say about him.
Tbh Ladybird is way more interesting. This is just another Webkit based Browser
While the software is exciting, I’m not exactly keen due to the controversy
I don’t keep up on browser drama. What’s the controversy?
Interesting because of the pronoun drama or for some other reason?
Probably because they’re building their own engine from scratch. Many of the popular browsers these days are built on Chromium or Webkit. The only “big” alternative these days is Gecko, which is what Firefox uses.
This matters because Chromium based browsers make up the vast majority of usage and Google has been using Chromium to drive web standards in the direction they think they should go.
Wikipedia has an overview, but doesn’t really cover Chromium’s market capture. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_browser_engines
Okay, and? It’s a proprietary browser for a company sponsoring paid search using a Russian engine. I’m quite happy to avoid.
Are you talking about Yandax? They announced that they’re getting out of Russia.
I do wonder why they’re not building on top of an open source engine or making their own engine open. We absolutely need an alternative to Chromium. It’s sad that this likely won’t be it.
Doesn’t it use WebKit?
That’s the most propagandist way you could have possibly said that
Any word on Windows? Despite the discourse around Kagi using Yandex, they did advise me that they are still building thier own indexes that are planned to eventually replace thirds party ones.
I’m still not a huge fan of the overuse of AI, but I do think Kagi is on the right track in a lot of other areas.
edit: I’m in the Linux community… Ignore the first sentence 😅
What “overuse of AI” are you referring to?
Maybe “overuse” isn’t the right word. “Over-investment” maybe.
I think the Universal Summarizer and Quick Answer are okay but the Assistant just doesn’t do it for me. No one is forcing me to use it or pay for it however and I don’t run the company, so it’s a moot point…
They’ve reiterated that AI is central to their mission, I just don’t find the LLM interfacing very compelling personally.
Probably that engines are putting Ai in the forefront of searches lately
Kagi doesn’t do that. It doesn’t even show you an AI response unless you specifically request it.
I wish there was a cheaper plan that didn’t involve AI at all. Like, I don’t care to have X prompts every month. I’d like to pay just for the engine.
You do not pay anything different for AI prompts. You should really actually try the product before you make up all these things about it.
You do not pay anything different for AI prompts. You should really actually try the product before you make up all these things about it.
But what you pay involves the calculated cost of using the AI, otherwise they’d be losing money if a lot of users were to make too many prompts. So it should be possible to have a lower price that didn’t give you any prompts.
The other poster is right… The base plans don’t contain any amount of “prompts” and are very reasonable /affordable.
So, duckduckgo also uses Yandex, right? I know Bing as their premier, but all these search engines use more than one source. I haven’t been able to see where any of them provide their entire list of sources. DDG and Kagi both previously listed Yandex and have since quietly disappeared their mention from their informational pages
The reference used to live here, iirc. They updated the language to say “all major search results providers” rather than listing the actual names as they did previously.
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Nvm it’s proprietary
And… that was the joy for 3 seconds.
It will be open source in the future.
When that happens I will be excited:) I’d be excited for WebKit to get more love
Yeah. Fuck blink.