The way i understood it was that it’s a difference in organization of society. Some people can find meaning themselves, without needing somebody else to tell them what to do. Some people just need to be told what to do.
Some people find their meaning in telling others what to do.
I think zealot answered that. It seems that people who can’t manage themselves and their worst impulse want to manage others.
Grimes and musk believe the AI is God. So there’s a good chance context is missing here on purpose because she’s aware enough to not go full crazy.
Bring back God = build the AI.
they don’t believe in god, so there’s no belief in AI.
let me sum it up for you in a few words imagine they are the thoughts of our oppressors.
I am a god.
The archetypes, best, worst and middling, are those parts of ourselves, so I can kind of see that. I’m fairly sure that’s not what they mean by it, but I could be wrong. People can agree on basic premise and have wildly varying ideas of the implications, such as regular people who hi to church, temple and mosque and basically try to be decent to everyone, and those who wield religion like a cudgel.
Eta, just saying I’m fairly sure i don’t agree their implications, maybe not the actual premise. I realize it was murky.
If we can kill God, then it wasn’t God that we killed…
This is the fact that is so often overlooked because its too goddamn inconvenient for them to acknowledge.
manic nazi dream girl
I think her argument was that religion offered an easy way to make moral choices.
Welcome to the rise and celebration of immortality. Pornstars, OF, open drug markets\junkies, and general San Fransisco culture.
All of those things are only problematic in excess, and are mostly excessive because of capitalism. Theres nothing immoral about sex or drugs.
There is definitely something immoral about open air drug markets, junkies lying in the streets, glorification of sex workers and prostitution, and blaming it on “capitalism” is an easy way to not accept responsibility for your societal shortcomings.
There was just a case where a woman gave birth to a baby in the woods, left it there and left for a vacation. If it weren’t for the family dog desperately trying to save the baby and getting noticed by a stranger, nobody would have ever known as even the rest of the family was defensive of the woman.
This shows morality is not only not an exclusively trait but not even an exclusively human trait.
Do you have source?
I am not sure that I agree that the dog’s behavior necessarily demonstrates “morality.” You might be anthropomorphizing a bit. I am not a biologist or anything, so I could be way off base… But is it not possible that the dog was acting on instincts to protect newborn offspring? Similar to when animals “adopt” babies from other species as their own?
Morality implies that the dog did a thing because it’s “the right thing to do,” when in reality, it might have just been a self-preservation instinct kicking in. Dog sees newborn that’s clearly the offspring of the being that takes care of it, dog tries to preserve that newborn’s life in order to keep the gravy train going.
Just my (again, non-expert) thoughts.
You can remove the argument from morality safely from your answer just by stating the dog acted upon instinct, based off the notion dogs are pack animals, that have a closely knit symbiotic relatioship with human, which can be used to in favour of the dog finding a newborn activated the instinct of preserving their pack.
The way you approached the subject can be easily side tracked through arguing you are atributting self interest to the animals actions, as in, it keeps the newborn alive, thus, their own preservation is assured.
If acting on true self interest, the dog should have allowed the newborn to die.
Side note: who discards a newborn in such calous way? How unbalanced is the person?
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fuck that elon breeder
Religion provided people with a sense of community. Without it, they’ve been finding community on the internet which has resulted in people believing in all kinds of strange things. Significantly stranger than there being a metaphysical consciousness in the universe.
Religion, while not perfect, often tries to encourage people to be better. Of course religion can be corrupted by politics at times, and we’re certainly in one of those times. But the general concept of people coming together and encouraging each other to be better isn’t a bad thing.
Internet groups are worse than religion, many of them are devoted towards hating an enemy and unlike religion, make no effort to encourage people to better themselves. Religion can often fail at this goal, but most internet groups make no attempt to be better than a failed religion. Case in point: atheistmemes@lemmy.world
Grace for one, not the other. I see.
Switch religion for internet groups in your comment and you’ll be baffled at your hypocrisy.
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If fear of divine retribution is your only reason for being a good person, then you are not a good person.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
Emphasis my own. Yes there is a self evident morality, you don’t need God to tell you what’s right and wrong.
To be fair, they’re also saying that it’s self-evident that our rights are given to us by a “creator”. Which isn’t true.
Your mama didn’t give you rights?
People always told me that Grimes was super smart, but every time she opens her mouth, it’s some of the dumbest shit I have ever heard. She is the guy we all knew in high school, the one who takes mushrooms and stares at Tool album covers, and expects the rest of us to pretend they are brilliant.
This chick literally wrote an open letter to communists, saying that if they support Elon Musk, he will use AI to bring a communist system.
If she were to ever shut up, it may dawn on her that she is actually a fucking idiot, and we can’t have that, so she never shuts the fuck up.
If she were to ever shut up, it may dawn on her that she is actually a fucking idiot, and we can’t have that, so she never shuts the fuck up.
"It is worth repeating at this point the theories that Ford had come up with, on his first encounter with human beings, to account for their peculiar habit of continually stating and restating the very very obvious, as in “It’s a nice day,” or “You’re very tall,” or “So this is it, we’re going to die.”
His first theory was that if human beings didn’t keep exercising their lips, their mouths probably shriveled up.
After a few months of observation he had come up with a second theory, which was this–“If human beings don’t keep exercising their lips, their brains start working.”
Is that Vonnegut?
Hitchhikers Guide
So… a female Joe Rogan, essentially?
She’s very good and talented at music, and I stand behind that. But as you’ll know if you see anything about personal lives of musicians, it doesn’t automatically make her good at anything else.
Oh believe you me, I 100% stand by the first 10 years of Kanye, and artists’ don’t have the right to ruin nostalgia for our youth. We are not obligated to stand by old men or women just because they did cool things in their youth.
Someone that fucked Elon should really keep ideas about morality out of their fucking mouth
Elon doesn’t fuck, his dick is a bent twig. He has them fucked by mail order.
