• Le_Wokisme [they/them, undecided]@hexbear.net
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      there’s a history of uprisings beginning with improvised pipe shotguns and using those to capture better quality arms and materiel

      if you’re feeling brave there are probably trucks around with “free gun inside” stickers on them (do not do this)

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          unfortunately 3d printing whole guns isn’t all that much of a cost-saver. cheapest thing you can do is still the hardware store for a couple pipes that fit together around a shotgun shell.

          but yeah, those special “your honor it’s not technically a machine gun” things sound fun if you have ammo money

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            How did the “super safety” end up shaking out, do you know? Did it ever get tested in court? Did some rando with a 3d printer actually completely wiggle out of the “no automatic guns unless you’re rich” rule?

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              idk if specifically the “super safety” has been tested but forced-reset triggers which are a slightly different thing got through ATF and a settled lawsuit.

              i’m definitely not a lawyer but apparently “one shot per operation of the trigger” is the rule and mechanically resetting the trigger while you’re holding it down doesn’t count (neither do the safety nightmare “binary triggers” which shoot once normally and then shoot again on the way back to neutral).

              probably they’re good unless your state bans them or somebody uses one in a mass shooting and trump bans them like bump stocks.

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            Iirc you can order parts kits that are everything that needs to be made out of metal, then mount them in printed bodies. It’s a little more involved than just buying one off the shelf, but cheaper. I’ve seen people on youtube build glocks and daggers this way

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              yeah but a printer plus $400 in filament for a glock is pushing “just buy a handgun” territory if you don’t already have the printer, and it’s pretty hard to cheat the cost of ammo unless your grandpa is already into reloading and has all the quipment.

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      Ammo is pretty fuckin expensive so it sucks to get practice in. But guns are pretty damn cheap these days. If you can bargain hunt, as someone else said around $200 can get you going. If you just want to buy something new off the shelf you’re looking at more like $350-500 depending on your needs.

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      Times are tough, but if you can save up ~$200 you can get a used glock, probably a cheaper used walmart gun, too.

      I recommend everyone to at least know how to use one, purchasing one is the next step

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          Order online to a reputable FFL near you, I found one that was LIBBED up but it’s better than going to some chud.

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              Other comment is mostly right, but I’d just like to expand. In this case, FFL actually means Federal Firearms Licensee, as in, the person/company who has a Federal Firearms License. The Federal Firearms License is the license you can get which allows you to sell guns commercially. Any business that sells guns has one. Also some individuals have one.

              When you buy a gun online, you can’t get it shipped to your door. You have to have it shipped to a Federal Firearms Licensee and they will do what is called an “FFL transfer” to actually hand it off to you. It’s just a bit of paperwork and then they hand you your package that was shipped by the actual seller. The FFL will charge a (hopefully small) fee for this, anywhere from like $15 to $50. My local pawn shop does it for $15.

              Basically, before you buy a gun online, just call up your local stores that sell guns and ask them if they do FFL transfers and how much it costs and whether they need advance notice before the gun shows up. When you’ve figured out what FFL you want to use, then you give their address to the seller when you buy the gun. The seller ships it to the FFL, and then when the package arrives you show up and ask for it and fill out the paperwork.

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              Federal Firearms License, you can order a gun online and ship it to someone (usually a company) that can transfer the gun to you after a background check.

              Check the reddit page of your local community, it’s how I found recommendations for the FFL I use.

              I personally don’t buy new weapons because it makes me feel better ethically, but don’t buy from shit like IWI (israeli weapons industries) as a low bar lol

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      Other people have given suggestions, but i want to add that there are also websites where you can get police trade-in handguns at a solid discount, and most of them only get fired once a year or so for qualification.