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Fuck all trucks.
Stop being selfish and think of the shareholders! Buy a ridiculously oversized piece of crap truck to impress your neighbors. How else do you show how manly you are?!
How else do you prove you’re a man?
You couldn’t have linked the bloody video?
Thought I did, sorry. Fixed it now.
I’ve always said that the fines for moving traffic violations need to be scaled to the weight of the vehicle.
It’s insane that going 20 over the limit on a 250kg moped gets you the exact same fine as doing it in a 4 ton F-450.
This is actually a great idea. IV never considered this. Oh man, EVs would get cooked on fines
Yeah, it is a downside that this may discourage EV adoption, but tbh. if you chose your car based on the fines you’d get when speeding is…questionable, to say the least.
“the consequences of doing an illegal and dangerous thing with my product” should, in my opinion, not be a choice criterion.
Though a scaling that takes both size and weight into account might be even better. Particularly for crashes involving pedestrians, cyclists and bikers, the size, and particulalry the height of the bonnet, are almost more significant than just the raw weight. A hollowed out F-450 weighing 1 ton is probably still more deadly to those people than a ~1.5-2 ton electric sedan.
This isn’t really aimed at reducing adoption of big cars, more at getting the people who drive more dangerous vehicles, to drive with more regard for safety, and be penalised heavier when they don’t.
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The more insane part is that Bezos and that mfer working McDonald’s gets the same fine. It might as well be jail time for one, and a verbal warning for the other.
Except in Finland like with that Nokia executive
So “cute” we kept our little static fines as if three or four figures mean something to everyone
I mean they’re not mutally exclusive. Fines could, and should scale with both.
It’d be nice to get them out of America, too.
Yes, please.
I’m a big bearded white guy and look like I should drive a stupid truck, or at least I would look that way with some shades and a baseball cap. Where I live is pretty white, surrounded by rural areas, so the trucks are everyyywhere. I doubt I need to convince anybody on here that these vehicles are bad, but I have a couple of observations from my perspective here in real america(/s).
I have a couple of friends who are those rare truck owners due to legitimate need because they are literal farmers, in addition to their day jobs (this is the USA, after all). Not only are their pastures on steep hillsides, but they only have huge animals like horses and cattle so that comes with pulling trailers and hauling bales of hay, etc. The trucks LOOK like they are farm trucks, their back seat areas in the cabs are dedicated to dogs, and the drivers are… petite women. 🤣 They are super nice and generous too, so I get to do the “have a friend with a truck” thing.
But, since I live close to a Home Depot, I don’t borrow one of the trucks unless I am buying 12+ foot (3.66+ meter) lumber or an appliance.
Every time I’m at Home Depot in old clothes with cuts on my arms and legs, loading standard 8’ (2.44m) lumber into my decade-old economy sedan, I’m surrounded by people who look like me demographically but are dressed much more cleanly and getting into shiny clean late model luxury SUVs or the hulking pickup trucks that cost even more.
And Canada. They’re everywhere here. Idiots only using them to commute to work every day.
“But I need it” Fuck off.
Here’s a due with a fukken Dodge RAM using it mainly to drive his daughter to school. It’s ~800 meters, and there are hundreds of little kids walking that same route. Way to go, you lazy idiot.
And Greenland. America as in North America and South America. Also do Afro-Eurasia and Oceania please. Don’t forget Antarctica.
Besides the obvious fact these trucks are too huge for European roads and parking spaces, America vehicles are simply hot garbage.
The Japanese and Korean vehicles for the American market aren’t any better to be fair.
the “newest” car i’ve ever owned is from 2008… are hondas and toyotas really equally as shitty as fucking dodge and chevy now?
I don’t think so. Their comment seems over-generalized. Sure, most modern cars are too “sporty” now which translates to being more uncomfortable in my experience. But that doesn’t mean I’d lump Japanese cars in the same quality category as American cars.
I meant that they’re all behemoths rather than quality wise! But yeah, Chevy has improved and is ok now from what I understand, the rest I wouldn’t trust.
No. They’re much more reliable and generally cheaper even with the tariffs
I too would like to know. I’m rocking a 2012 Scion with a Toyota engine with 300,000 miles on it…
Toyota, particularly, hasn’t kept up with advances in infotainment technology. Their infotainment is literally no better than it was in 08. Honda infotainment is slightly better, but still stuck with terribly low resolution, and only a 9”ish screen. Pretty much any other company will be a better buy than those 2 right now. Remember, the infotainment in every new car is the entire heart of the car, so you’re forced to live with it; you can’t just swap out infotainment screens for something better like you used to be able to do.
9 inch infotainment is plenty. The purpose of a car is to travel, not watch SpongeBob Squarepants.
Infotainment replacements are out there, but often lack support for some specific vehicle options. If the connections were more standardized like the old radios it would certainly be nice.
I hate infotainment and technology in cars so, go Toyota!
Give me efi and maybe abs (most of my cars dont have abs anyway)
Tech Junk makes all cars more expensive and prone to failure and impossible to repair, and further pushes us to technofacist dystopia where your every move is recorded and your car can be controlled remotely (Tesla can do this already).
Silly me, thinking that the engine would be the heart of a car.
People today have no idea what engine they even have. They care more about the screen size in the interior.
Modern humans 🙄
What would you even need that for?
The engine is a part of the legs in this analogy
Do people actually want infotainment screens?
The only thing I can think of wanting a screen for is a backup camera. I much prefer buttons when possible. I thought infotainment screens were just a way for manufacturers to save money on buttons. Why would you want one? Is there something I’m missing?
The bigger the screen for me, the safer it is to gaze over at directions. I wouldn’t drive without directions telling me which way is fastest. No way can a human predict traffic better than computers.
The cameras might not be “required” to drive, but they do increase precision, which in turn is safer overall.
Also, the last thing I wanna do is know my area super well, then it takes the excitement out of driving around; the engagement is helpful to keep me from being distracted.
If cars were designed so you actually had visibility, you wouldn’t Need 500 cameras just to reverse.
This is why 2000s was peak. You had most creature comforts, and tech wasn’t shoved in our faces, and you could actually see out of your car.
Cameras allow you to see 360° all at the same time, though.
How do you like to get to new places? Turn by turn audio? That mixed with on-screen directions?
If you like on screen, what is the ideal screen size?
12” widescreen is basically my minimum >15” is ideal. I’d put a 24” in my car if I could.
Like a driving simulator :D
@brbposting @Taldan Reading a paper map and looking up directions before you drive and then remembering them are critical skills that should be on driving tests.
Agreed.
Having a maps app that shows directions and current position is pretty handy in new areas, especially if there is construction or heavy traffic to avoid.
Makes me feel better doing that!
Still have to check traffic even for short trips since I refuse to waste half an hour in a jam when looking for green/red roads would’ve taken seconds :) then appreciate traffic notifications along the way
Admittedly don’t do it with paper but have enjoyed learning roads - even played a game kinda, work to home (San Francisco) where I turned right on red for each red I got, forcing me to explore new places (no GPS)
lol “heart of the car” gtfo
rear view cameras are nice (though unnecessary), but literally NOTHING else about “infotainment” is worth the extra cost. you think it is because you’ve been convinced you just simply can’t survive without it, and cars can’t even exist without it. why? because $$$
fuck outta my face with that shit
so, my takeaway from all this is that toyota is still the best way to go if you for some reason just have to buy a “infotainment” car
Maps/navigation is the one feature that infotainment systems have that is a step up and worth a small amount of cost.
It will be instantly outdated.
The phone you use is going to be a far better method of navigation. Cars need a dumb screen that connects to your phone and displays the map, problem solved. Although id take all screens out of cars but kids today need a screen or they freak out I guess.
What options are there that don’t have infotainment garbage without buying something that’s 10 years old?
I will not buy a car without a 15” screen. I just cannot read directions as fast on any smaller screen. The bigger the information on the screen, the faster I can read it, and the less precision I need with my gaze.
Sorry, I meant that they’re all too huge for European roads. Quality wise it varies considerably, Chevy group has kind of stepped it up and honda/the Koreans have slipped (though miles better than Stellantis group with Dodge and jeep still).
Only some places in Europe have roads too small to accomodate them, but regardless, these vehicles are stupid everywhere
Everyone else on the road when one of these drives by with a loud muffler:
I usually give them this treatment.
New f150s dwarf old f250s in size despite not being able to haul as much. I read somewhere that American farmers have a strong preference for pickups from the 90s because new trucks are worse at doing truck stuff in every way.
Hey OP.
I get some people prefer a screenshot here instead of just the youtube link, but why not put the youtube link in the body of the post?
It’s posted in the top comment now
The only thing more stupid than these tacky cars are the people sitting in them.
They are plus sized.
Indeed, and they have no performance, even though they pretend to be high-class.
They have Smol pp mentality.
it’s so lovely to see body positivity among the progressives
The fucked-up thing is these hulking beasts are a recent construct, we used to have genuinely small trucks here once.
A stock S10 from the '80s, '90s, or early '00s is going to be significantly smaller than a stock Colorado you can pick up new off the lot right now, for example, and that S10 would’ve been more than good enough for things like basic junk runs to the scrapyard or for hardware store runs for things like bags of sand or whatever.
Wait until the CyberTruck arrives
It won’t because its exterior has too many sharp edges to be street legal. It will never be allowed in europe, not without a whole bunch of laws beeing changed.
You’re very fortunate as it’s a hideous abomination
I have a oddly hard time spotting Cybertrucks in the wild, I think it’s my brain trying to spare me the psychic damage of seeing such an ugly vehicle.
Your brain probably just thought it was a dumpster
I saw a bunch of them in California when we visited during the previous administration.
Every time I see one turning or handling a slope it looks like the handling is traaaaaaash.
I will say that the wheels and tires actually look cool. On a different vehicle those could be very stylish for a city truck someone in Ft Worth or Atlanta might have.
I suppose they could stick a bunch of goofy bumpers on it like the US compliant Countach. It might be the only way to make them uglier.
Wouldn’t this be a suitable topic for a citizens initiative? Along the lines of the stop killing games movement?
It’s hilariously sad watching these huge trucks driving like they’re corvettes on the highway.
I drove a few hundred kilometers on the highway the other day after a bit of snow fall, of course the four cars that I saw in the ditch were pickups
the four cars that I saw in the ditch were pickups
High centre of gravity strikes again!
I think in this case it was more the lack of winter tires and weight over the rear
awful lot of people seem to think all-terrain tires are perfectly suited for winter
Still, it’s the pathetic weight distribution/positioning. Bad design. Unsafe at any speed.
Help how? I would love nothing more if I never had to see one again but I can hardly prohibit others from having one
Below the video you`ll find links to organisation competing this legislation. You can join those and support them.
If EU citizen, you can write to your member of the EU-parliament. Theres a pre-fabricated letter you can send in. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/search/advanced
He explains it in the conclusion of the video.
Lobby against them, keyscrape, put anti- tinydickcar posters up, etc.
you can make sure that you treat the owners like the selfish assholes they are, though
might influence some of them, at the least it’s definitely better than nothing
