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A post on Ask Lemmygrad by user Cyber Ghost titled “What are the reasons why Russia attacked Ukraine?”
Below is the comment by user @cfgaussian reading: “The Nazi Kiev regime attacked the ethnically Russian Donbass for eight years intending to commit genocide in their quest for an ethnically pure Ukraine and Russia finally came to their aid after it became clear that the Minsk agreements were never going to be honored. Also, NATO was turning Ukraine into a hyper militarized threat to the integrity and security of Russia itself. Refusal of the US and Europe to negotiate on a new inclusive security framework, refusal to stop NATO expansion eastward, and the relentless and violent anti-Russian psychosis that has gripped Ukraine since the Maiden coup that triggered a civil war in a country in which half or more of the population are essentially Russian became intolerable.”
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Sounds like the China fans with Taiwan. ‘They actually want to be part of the PRC they just dont know it yet’
‘Those ukrainians are basically already Russian so its fine’
This is a screenshot from lemmygrad. Those people are the China fans you’re referring to, it’s all the same group of people.
Had a, uh, discussion with lemmygrad where apparently wanting high speed rail without secret police and genocide is a controversial take. It was a post kind of half celebrating the atrocities of communist regimes. Only for lemmygrad users to turn around and tell me that those things never happened, but they were totally justified and ought to happen again, but communists don’t do that kind of thing and it’s all made up propaganda, unless you’re a capitalist or a liberal or [someone else who deserves it]. There were a few interesting and intelligent lines of thought in that whipping circle I found myself a part of, and I was glad for those, but generally the ideological spin was going so fast, you just about had to slap a tail rotor on it.
You’d think it would give a person pause when in the course of defending their political beliefs, they manage to post a single comment that contains four or five lines, almost verbatim, from the Narcissist’s Prayer.
But it never seems to.
It’s because a lot of them seem to want secret police first and high speed rail second.
State socialists have some reasonable explanations for the authoritarian aspects of the USSR and sometimes China but they’re so easily provoked (online) it’s hard to find them in the flood of reactionary dumbassery going on around it. Don’t take this as a defense of state socialism. It’s not. But their logic has some merit if you believe a state is a necessary institution in a socialist/communist society
Yes, I found that to very much be the case with lemmygrad.
No no, they’re ethnically Russian. Just don’t ask why they’re ethnically Russian.
A hint or two.
There might be a few more reasons why Ukraine really wanted to join a defense alliance against Russia…
I know amount of explaining that NATO is a defence alliance seems to to work.
NATO exists because of Russian aggression. If they stopped trying to attack every country touching there borders it would be fine and NATO wouldn’t need to exist.
I mean there’s a case to be made that NATO expansionism is bad and does have a destabilizing effect and that trying to isolate the region for what may be mostly historical reasons isn’t really helping in the grand scheme of things.
Then Russia goes and threatens to invade Finland or something and it’s like “oh yeah, that’s why”.
I just loved all the people who were going “Russia respects borders and doesn’t invade other countries” when they had tried literally the exact same thunder run strategy with Georgia not that long before Ukraine.
Russian propaganda literally says that “Russia has no borders”
Yeah, raping and killing your own people is totally fine! …Ohwait, no, it isn’t.