Hearing that Israel was able to intercept multiple missiles using f35s on the ground

Hearing on the news about how Iron Dome stopped the attack when you’ve just spent an hour watching missiles slam repeatedly into their targets is crazy

No way this can be seen as anything other than a complete failure of the iron dome. They are getting so many hits on the military targets

Good. Appeasement never works on fascists.

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Damn Iran how long does it take to press a button

Ceasefire coming any day now

The US position is quite strange really. On the one hand it seems untethered from domestic political pressure, so we can assume that to the extent the US is not involved, it must mean that for purely strategic reasons they don’t actually want an escalation. On the other hand, they are applying less than zero pressure on Israel’s continuing escalation in the direction of war. It’s almost like no-one is in charge and this is just what happens when you elect someone who doesn’t know what day it is.

Yeah you have on the one hand a major loss of social opportunities, and on the other a ready made relief and also narrative/justification for that in right wing online communities. And in a way the fantasies of fascism are based in desire for community.

Although people definitely used to idolise musicians more, I’m not sure they had much explicit political influence beyond either vague counter-culture ideas or alternatively reinforcing social norms. But definitely the fact that this kind of youth influence is now being replaced by expressly political and right wing influencers and narratives must be having some effect. And it’s part of a kind of anti-social shift that things like Covid and internet culture and social isolation etc are driving

They are tracked by US spy planes

Sorry to be cynical but the US didn’t exactly get its ass handed to it. They lacked the political will to subjugate Afghanistan and Iraq, which would not be the case if they considered it necessary to their survival. And they annihilated the conventional forces of both countries in an incredibly short time. Israel is crossing all kinds of red lines while everyone seems to assume the momentum will somehow change. I don’t think we should imagine that the amount of violence they would need to impose to achieve their ends makes those ends impossible.

Israel has claimed there were 300 people there. That might be untrue but we know it was a high level meeting so other leaders would undoubtedly have been killed

Whatever bullshit you hear in the next few days from the US about trying to negotiate a ceasefire, remember that they just gifted the IDF another 8 billion dollars to subsidise their wars and genocide

But the whole point of their missiles was specifically to stop this situation from occurring, ie Israel bombing with impunity.

Israel has been bombing all over the border not just Beirut

Perhaps. It seems that Israel might not have taken this move if they weren’t certain that such a retaliation wasn’t possible. Certainly restraint based on the logic of mutually assured destruction doesn’t make sense for Hezbollah going forward. So I guess we’ll see in the next few days.

But i mean - in all seriousness - why aren’t there a hundred missiles on their way to Tel Aviv right now then?

The pager attack and now getting their leadership taken out - Hezbollah must be heavily compromised. And that means those Israeli air strikes probably have been hitting weapons stockpiles. Meanwhile Iran has shown it’s not willing to escalate under any circumstances. A very bad situation.

I think he’s probably alive. By announcing his death Israel will try to track Hezbollah’s internal communications back to him. If he is dead then Hezbollah must be so compromised by Israeli intelligence that they are basically fucked anyway, which is also possible.