That’s what all political donation ads sound like

Yeah I wanted to say this too. Normal people don’t know or care. They might know who the president is but beyond that they do not give a shit. I’d be surprised if more than half of Americans recognize the name JD Vance. The average American is full of ambient bigotry, but they have no formed beliefs until the moment they try saying stuff out loud. The average person’s political affiliation is a shrug and a vote for whoever their parents voted for.

Chuds are in their own fabricated reality, as are liberals. But that veil is only so thick and the average American isn’t usually following the spectacle. Normal people are going to see people getting shot with rubber bullets and come to a conclusion that something’s being done very wrong, there’s a problem in how something is being handled. That kind of thing does get attention

Politics are completely imaginary things that happen on TV for the average American. It’s the spectacle they want. The only time it becomes real is when they personally start to feel the effects, or start to think the effects might hit them. When the TV is no longer showing old guys getting angry, but instead showing masked ICE agents shooting tear gas and shoving people into vans, then yeah it does make the average person anxious. The American is a docile animal who likes to make a lot of noise, but truly wants nothing to happen and nothing to change. Actual change is frightening and doesn’t care about politics as a spectacule.

It’s probably also very hard to spin the fact that ICE built a literal concentration camp, that looks like a concentration camp, right in Florida.

All my homies are dripped out with grass ears

Yeah but how they’ve even encountered maga communists is a mystery. They’re so niche you have to basically be a politics nerd like one of us. How they conflate maga communists with normal Marxists is another question entirely. The only answer I’ve come up with is there’s someone at the state department pushing this stuff

Mamdani is going to sneak up behind Netanyahu and press the O button to do a knockdown move and then he’ll attach the Fulton recovery system

Then Netanyahu will be assigned to the brig on mother base

Yeah this is it right here. They like looking at their net worth increase but only in terms of money or stocks. Maybe they think once it hits a certain threshold everything will be fine, or maybe they just want to rack up the score before they die.

I mean if you ask a smug liberal from a coastal city if very right wing states like Louisiana or Alabama should be bombed or starved they’d probably say yes. Look at how they talk about the south whenever there’s a bad hurricane or something.

The only people who fit the criteria for the liberal conception of communists are Caleb Maupin and that Haz guy. They’re self styled communists who do speak positively about Putin and modern Russia. They also talk fondly about…the United States and talk shit about…service workers. They’re the ones who are incoherent.

They’re also virulent antisemites and pal around with actual fascists like that Dugin guy. My point here is that Maupin and Haz are probably feds or fed adjacent. And somehow these guys have become what a large groups of liberals believe a communist is.

This is the most cognitive dissonance I’ve ever seen in a person. Their leaders are warmongers so we need to do warfare against them.

???

And we’re talking about countries like Palestine, Iran, and Syria? Oh so countries that haven’t invaded anyone in like 100 years? They’re the warmongers? The only wars these countries have been involved in, within the past century, were from the other side, fighting off invaders.

Modern Russia has invaded several other countries but I don’t think many of us defend the invasion of Georgia. I personally defend the invasion of Crimea for a bunch of reasons. The consensus around here with Ukraine seems to be that it’s an unfortunate reality of Russia being boxed in by NATO and this is the result.

I’m so frustrated with liberals who don’t understand it was Harris who was supposed to make her policy clear. If Harris was supposed to be so much better than Trump, especially in regards to Palestine, she should have made that evident to voters, including ambivalent voters. Except she ran a campaign that was primarily about begging for rich donors since no one thought she would win.

You don’t signal how much better you are than the opposition by gaining, then bragging about, the endorsement of fucking Dick Cheney. Do liberals just not remember this guy? He’s pure evil, one of the most extensive lists of war crimes and death can be levied upon him. He’s possibly the largest architect of death of the 21st century so far. It would be like the Beach Boys bragging about how good their music is because they’re pals with Charles Manson.

Liberals, just admit you don’t care about Palestinian people and you have no values at all. Or admit you’re gullible and somehow sincerely believed Harris would somehow stop the genocide she was actively perpetrating.

the liberal has no beliefs. She believes in nothing other than aligning with what she perceives is the socially acceptable left-liberal position. It should have been obvious she no longer had a soul when she was willingly hanging out with Hillary Clinton. Contrapoints is not a person with beliefs other than she deserves an audience. She’s an empty vessel, she’s a husk who wants attention. She wants a personal mythology and adoring fans. Everything she says is run through a filter to calculate the best possible audience retention. This is a person for whom beliefs and internal conviction are not an avenue to change the world, but rather beliefs are a malleable problem to be solved by choosing the correct postures in order to gain some mythical mainstream appeal.

The liberal is someone who believes there is a correct position, not necessarily correct on its own merits or based upon personal experience, but instead it’s correct by virtue of how much of an audience it can get. But it’s not even properly calibrated, it’s based on the perception of what a broad liberal audience may agree with. Like I’m reminded of how Chuck Schumer has an imaginary retired couple who lives in Long Island or something, and before he does anything, he considers what their opinion might be. Liberals have given themselves imaginary brain creatures who whisper in their ears on what to say and do, because they know if they only acted based on conviction, if they only said words based on their own beliefs, the only words out of their mouths would be “i want to be popular.”

people can have values beyond posturing? What? You don’t simply drop your values when a liberal tells you something isn’t “politically viable”?

I think it has more to do with grok declaring itself MechaHitler and saying Jews are gonna do a white genocide

The American economy would shit itself if it were possible to simply be a quiet family that works retail jobs and raises a kid on 1 and a half incomes. Every aspect of American life for lower income people is presumed to have debt involved. Credit cards, home loans, medical debt, car payments. Those are how the gears turn and it’s what the capitalist class wants. They don’t want stable, financially independent workers. They want debt slaves who live off payday loans.

Maybe it is possible to live like Dr. Racist is suggesting, but it would involve a series of implausible circumstances to the point it’s not worth considering. It would be a family who somehow has no debt, a stable living circumstance, an assumed promotion after one year, no medical emergencies, no accidents, no layoffs, no sudden natural disasters, nothing. It would be threading a needle every single day, for the rest of their lives. Getting a royal flush every day.

More succiently I guess it’s like, humans know the game and the rules, but this LLM just goes after what’s predictable. It can’t obfuscate what it actually means because it doesn’t mean anything. You tell it to say less woke things and it’ll reply “ok chief, time to be a Nazi.”

Reactionaries know they’re being giggling little shits, whether they know they’re hiding behind deniability or not. AI doesn’t know any of that, it just sees how most anti-woke, anti-PC rhetoric is the same as 4chan fascism, so it goes for the explicit fascism

This should be a good example of how fascists are amorphous slime who don’t pin themselves down. Because humans know where the rhetorical lines are, they know what plausible deniability is, and that’s often enough to trick gullible liberals or ambiently racist apolitical types.

The LLM has no idea what any of that is. It doesn’t know how to do the little giggling game of signalling and then denial. It doesn’t know how to do a Nazi salute and then blame it on being neurodivergent. It only knows its own parameters. Musk seems to have included an instruction or something about saying things that aren’t politically correct, well there you go. It just outright says the quiet part because the robot has no conception of what’s supposed to be quiet.

What I got from it was something like “I’d rather have AIs discuss exhausting political topics rather than humans”

Like train a bunch of AIs to have political conversations, load then all on a server and then bury them somewhere. A better way of saying it would be “if these conversations are necessary, I’d rather if AIs could have them with one another instead of bothering humans.”

I don’t know why the poster thought this would be a popular sentiment on a website based around humans talking about politics (and shit and cum)

I had predicted years ago that qanon would mutate into a new evangelical wing of conservatives, not simply become the floor of all conservative rhetoric. Color me surprised I guess lol

4chan didn’t even exist until he was in his 30s so it’s even more pathetic.

Furthermore this guy has so much money he could just hire a team of actors to tell him how cool and funny he is. But he does this