How can you have a society where everyone is equal and free if you don’t define the right of individuals to be equal and free? There are always people and organizations who would give preference to their tribe, whether for well-intentioned or nefarious reasons.
How can you have a society where everyone is equal and free if you don’t define the right of individuals to be equal and free
it seems pretty obvious that we can just observe whether everybody is equal and free, and if somebody is preventing somebody else from being equal or free, tell them to knock it off.
no, “rights” are an enlightenment era fiction created by people who were supposedly interested in empiricism, but never bothered to question whether rights exist.
Rights are things that as a society we agree people should be allowed to do. And if they’re prevented from doing them, we tell the people preventing them to knock it off.
This is such an idiotic take. They aren’t a fiction. Sure, there isn’t some sort of magical guarantee you have them, but that doesn’t make the term or concept less useful.
When people are told to change their behavior, sometimes their response is just to say fuck off. How could we possibly expect compliance without codifying what they should comply with? How would you deal with conflicting values? As much as governments are the single largest cause of mass murders and deaths, this is the one thing they are good for: defining parameters.
How can you have a society where everyone is equal and free if you don’t define the right of individuals to be equal and free? There are always people and organizations who would give preference to their tribe, whether for well-intentioned or nefarious reasons.
it seems pretty obvious that we can just observe whether everybody is equal and free, and if somebody is preventing somebody else from being equal or free, tell them to knock it off.
That’s what rights are.
no, “rights” are an enlightenment era fiction created by people who were supposedly interested in empiricism, but never bothered to question whether rights exist.
Rights are things that as a society we agree people should be allowed to do. And if they’re prevented from doing them, we tell the people preventing them to knock it off.
but we don’t agree. the government infringes on so-called inalienable rights all the time. often without repercussion.
So you agree that you believe in what everyone else calls rights, just that governments aren’t perfect. Which nobody said they were.
no. I believe they don’t exist, and the fact of infringement proves that. they are a fiction, and one that creates barriers to liberty.
This is such an idiotic take. They aren’t a fiction. Sure, there isn’t some sort of magical guarantee you have them, but that doesn’t make the term or concept less useful.
When people are told to change their behavior, sometimes their response is just to say fuck off. How could we possibly expect compliance without codifying what they should comply with? How would you deal with conflicting values? As much as governments are the single largest cause of mass murders and deaths, this is the one thing they are good for: defining parameters.
none of this necessitates rights
you can’t prove this
Has there ever been anywhere in recorded human history where this wasn’t true?
this question is not proof.