I’ve always had that attitude and never had that problem. It’s the people who think that the corporations like them and have their best interests at heart that get fucked over the most.
Any laborer who thinks that companies are their friend is (clearly) not a socialist.
But any laborer who thinks that companies are their friend is also, quite clearly, not an ideological capitalist.
The negotiating power of labor with capital is core to the functioning of capitalism and the free market. Laborers who think the elites are their friends, and not just cold cogs of an economic machine that must be dealt with only on terms and with power balances that benefit the laborer, are not capitalists. They’re feudalists who are happy to kneel in exchange for nothing but scraps from the lord’s table.
Left or right, companies are only your friend if you’re willing to be a slave.
Are you sure you’re responding to the right comment?
Or the right thread?
You sound like an artist.
For… believing that the negotiating power of labor is central to capitalism and free exchange, as opposed to the personal relationships that are economically core to feudal systems?
It’s like an episode from a generic cartoon where they think big corp is an entity itself, with its desires and needs, and it is not ran by people/integrated by its employees. You can get so much knowing the right people than by having above average skills.
Networking has been important in my career and I like people, so I do, at least partially. Company needs both good comp and cool people to attract me if I’m going to spend time working for them.
I like the people I work with. I hang with some of them outside of work. The company can suck my dick, but the people are tight.
They’re not going to give you investment money just because you think you’re their friend. That’s not how investments work. They give you investment money because they think your idea or venture will be profitable and that they will eventually make all that money back and even more by financially supporting you now. Friendship has no part in investment nor does it have a part in any other aspect of the capitalist machinery.
I don’t understand what your point is, and your comments don’t really seem related to what you’re replying to. I don’t mean this as an insult, but is English not your first language?
Actually, understanding that my company isn’t my friend has helped me put a roof over my head. If I hadn’t said “this is exploitative” and then left for a better company with higher pay, I probably wouldn’t have a roof over my head.
Remembering that companies don’t give a shit about you or your family is not the same as deciding not to work at all.
Good luck accomplishing that in this economy with the assumption that companies are your friend. Watching out for your own interests is a fat cry from not working…
Exactly. Like the VP who only signed on because of a guaranteed termination package of 1M thinks the company is their “friend.” They see it for what it is, a cow that you milk for excess value, until it’s time to move on to the next pasture
You don’t need a corporation to be your friend to work for them in order to make money to mostly survive. You never have and never will. They don’t care about your friendship, they care about the value you create for them, so why should you care about anything other than what fraction of the value they’re willing to give back to you in return?
What attitude? Seriously, what attitude exactly are you denouncing here?
If you’re suggesting that for-profit companies aren’t trying to make money at the expense of the average person, I have some snake oil you might be interested in.
Good luck putting a roof over your head and feeding yourself with that attitude.
I’ve always had that attitude and never had that problem. It’s the people who think that the corporations like them and have their best interests at heart that get fucked over the most.
Ok thanks, I need someone that knows who gets fucked over the most.
Any laborer who thinks that companies are their friend is (clearly) not a socialist.
But any laborer who thinks that companies are their friend is also, quite clearly, not an ideological capitalist.
The negotiating power of labor with capital is core to the functioning of capitalism and the free market. Laborers who think the elites are their friends, and not just cold cogs of an economic machine that must be dealt with only on terms and with power balances that benefit the laborer, are not capitalists. They’re feudalists who are happy to kneel in exchange for nothing but scraps from the lord’s table.
Left or right, companies are only your friend if you’re willing to be a slave.
I don’t go to work to make friends. You sound like an artist that’s in it for the clout.
I… that’s the point?
Are you sure you’re responding to the right comment?
Or the right thread?
For… believing that the negotiating power of labor is central to capitalism and free exchange, as opposed to the personal relationships that are economically core to feudal systems?
What I like is they are saying we should be friends with corporations but that they also don’t go to work to make friends.
So… do they have any human friends?
Not with this attitude
It’s like an episode from a generic cartoon where they think big corp is an entity itself, with its desires and needs, and it is not ran by people/integrated by its employees. You can get so much knowing the right people than by having above average skills.
Networking has been important in my career and I like people, so I do, at least partially. Company needs both good comp and cool people to attract me if I’m going to spend time working for them.
I like the people I work with. I hang with some of them outside of work. The company can suck my dick, but the people are tight.
Lol, a corporate boot licker does better in your opinion?
You know that you can interact with people/organizations without befriending them?
Your always going to need investment money and unless your mom, dad or friends give it to you. There’s no choice.
They’re not going to give you investment money just because you think you’re their friend. That’s not how investments work. They give you investment money because they think your idea or venture will be profitable and that they will eventually make all that money back and even more by financially supporting you now. Friendship has no part in investment nor does it have a part in any other aspect of the capitalist machinery.
I don’t understand what your point is, and your comments don’t really seem related to what you’re replying to. I don’t mean this as an insult, but is English not your first language?
You think you need to be born rich or love companies?
You know there’s a middle ground - working for a company you don’t care about for the money
Also don’t let autocorrect rule your writing. Learn the difference between your, you’re, and yaw - the computer doesn’t know which you mean very often
One thing that helps people remember is the apostrophe in “you’re” indicates it’s a contraction, shortening “you are”
Actually, understanding that my company isn’t my friend has helped me put a roof over my head. If I hadn’t said “this is exploitative” and then left for a better company with higher pay, I probably wouldn’t have a roof over my head.
Remembering that companies don’t give a shit about you or your family is not the same as deciding not to work at all.
Good luck accomplishing that in this economy with the assumption that companies are your friend. Watching out for your own interests is a fat cry from not working…
Exactly. Like the VP who only signed on because of a guaranteed termination package of 1M thinks the company is their “friend.” They see it for what it is, a cow that you milk for excess value, until it’s time to move on to the next pasture
You don’t need a corporation to be your friend to work for them in order to make money to mostly survive. You never have and never will. They don’t care about your friendship, they care about the value you create for them, so why should you care about anything other than what fraction of the value they’re willing to give back to you in return?
What attitude? Seriously, what attitude exactly are you denouncing here?
If you’re suggesting that for-profit companies aren’t trying to make money at the expense of the average person, I have some snake oil you might be interested in.
There’s so much stupid in your comment it’s not even worth trying to correct it lol
Also… you kids get off my lawn!