That was one of the more interesting SOTU addresses I’ve seen. Personally, I think he said most of the things that needed to be said, and he said them reasonably well. I’m sure he’s going to get some flack for attacking Trump directly (though not by name), but I was frankly glad to see it. Doing otherwise makes it seem like it’s just your typical election/political disagreements, but we’re past that now.

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    And better than every Republican president in your fucking lifetime.

    Don’t let perfection be the enemy of the good…

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          Any serious opposition to Israel’s genocide would have been nice. Not bypassing Congress to rush weapon sales to them would have been nice.

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            You understand the alternative is going to do both of those things way more, right

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              You understand that criticizing Biden and supporting Trump aren’t the same thing, right?

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                When it’s either/or, as it ultimately is - I do not.

                And the fact that it’s the russian trolls’ M.O. is not random chance.

                You have Jan 6, 2021-early 2024 to criticize away. Time’s up. You may recommence criticizing without helping trump on November 10th, 2024.

                Notably, you can join in on your favorite solution without criticizing at any time.

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                  When it’s either/or, as it ultimately is - I do not.

                  Your lack of understanding is your problem

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              Increasing taxation on them does not alter their absolute control of our government and democracy

              Oligarchs own and control the United States. That is what needs to change.

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          Take positions that benefit humanity even if they aren’t ‘safe.’

          He’s a tool of the establishment, nothing more.

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        If you think there is even a remote possibility that anything in American politics would involve anything but the very lowest of bars, then you’re gonna be pretty disappointed. We’re at the point where we’re begging half of the voting public to please refrain from electing treasonous, felonious, fascists. The bar is so low, it may be the only place left on the planet that isn’t full of microplatics.

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      Wow, all two of them? Get a higher bar. I’m not even young.

      All three Democratic presidents I’ve been alive for have been pretty bad too. Turns out I’m not represented very well in our plutocracy, and it’s pretty tiring to hear the endless defense of the wealthy elite that actively work against all of us.

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        So what are you, personally, doing to actively work for all of us?

        Apart from complaining on the internet about ‘both sides’?

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          The options are either personally fix our entire country or shut up and follow orders? This unwillingness to accept criticism of the Democratic Party is exactly why people like me feel unrepresented by it. We see a party working against our interests and a fan base frothing at the mouth anytime anyone dares speak against them.

          Have you ever complained about the Republicans? If so, why don’t you stop complaining about it and personally fix the country?

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            I think a different perspective is: First, make the choice that will be least harmful for the country, then do what we can to make things better. Allowing the poorer choice to be made isn’t going to solve the problem any more than fighting against it, but it will probably allow more time to change course.

            I wouldn’t call Biden a great president, but I wouldn’t call him terrible. Trump doesn’t have the intelligence to recognize the we have skin to keep things like bleach and UV rays out, or the self-awareness to realize that musings like that are far better done in private where the consequences are smaller.

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              The difference is that it’s the same “you have to make the safe choice now and you’ll get to make things better later” every single cycle. Many of us see it all as a facade that will never end, and watch the Democratic Party actively work against our interests in the meantime.

              But we can’t ever dare express discontent online without vitriol from people who can’t seem to handle the fact that others might not be convinced by “I’m not a Republican” anymore.