I’ll mention something different for my own contribution than my usual:
I’ve always hated Seinfeld, including when his show was brand new. “It’s a show about nothing!” was a thought terminating cliche in the 90s that was used to pitch the show at me again and again by its fans, and also to dismiss any and all problems I had with the show and its ultra-privileged smarmy main character. If I got anything valuable out of that show and for that matter his stand up routine, it was a lifelong allergy to New Yorker comedy that front loads a whole lot of “I am a New Yorker which means I am smarter and tougher and wiser and more cultured and more sophisticated yet more grounded than you” self-aggrandizement into the set. :nyet:
EDIT: Please post your own disliked Hexbear-approved popular things! Don’t just reply to mine! :rage-cry:
monty python holy grail & life of brian. didnt finish either movie cause i didnt think they were funny. i like the sketch comedy much more
Holy Grail derailed hundreds if not thousands of hours of D&D sessions throughout the 90s. It was memes before memes were a known internet thing.
I didn’t hate either of them but the cliches were grating over time for sure.
In the show’s defense, Jerry’s supposed to be shitty and all the main characters get sent to jail in the finale.
But Jerry Seinfeld the man was also shitty - he was dating a 17 year old in the 90’s.
That was part of my problem: if they’re shitty, why should I care about them enough to watch them be shitty and congratulate themselves for their shittiness?
Even the characters in Trailer Park Boys had redeemable characteristics and some outright wholesome intentions (like Ricky insisting Christmas isn’t about presents, but “getting drunk and doing drugs with your family”) and that made it far more enjoyable for me.
Star wars. Everybody seems to like it, even here, even though it’s pure dogshit
Star Wars was always bad scifi, because it’s actually a space western. I think there is a lot of recoverable potential but I think it’s cursed to be “who knows what kind of death star the next movie will be about!!!”
The sequels are basically just as much remakes as they are “true sequels”.
Prequels are actually kinda good in this regard, being basically about liberalism decaying into fascism.
I’ve heard plenty of prequel haters say the story is boring because trade disputes leading into fascism is boring.
That’s the banality of evil, yo. It is the inSIDIOUS way that fascists get into power. :unlimited-power:
I’m not a huge fan of Volcel culture. Like I get the Volcel Police meme is here to protect people like me. But imo taking it super serious and cutting yourself off from humanity because you got caught in an alienation feedback loop is really depressing to me. I want to see people thriving and making friends and…uh, whatever else tickles their fancy. :hyperflush:
Edit: (Looking at how I’m getting ratio’d I think I found a real “unpopular opinion”, lol. This amuses me).
(Most) people here aren’t really volcel. It’s just good to have a culture of not encouraging people to be horny online, especially in a space that can be male dominated. Helps keeps the creepiness down.
But imo taking it super serious and cutting yourself off from humanity because you got caught in an alienation feedback loop is really depressing to me.
I gotta be honest, I feel like I’ve been stuck in one of these for the last 20 years. I do not know what to do, and it is very unpleasant. :doomer:
This is super late cause work and sleep, but… :yea:
While Jordan Peterson is a hack, I think something can be said for the “take a bath/clean your room” thing boosting people’s confidence enough to form a personality cult over it. Doing little self care/maintenance behaviors is a bit like the beginnings of forcing a self love on yourself that most lonely people seem to struggle with. People who take even a modicum of care for themselves, I think, have this glow that just makes them more approachable. So it seems like a logical first step for anyone trying to get out of a rut. I think that’s why hexbear does the “go to the gym” thing, too.
But besides that there’s just having some interests or hobbies, too (really common advice, I know). Something that you just do for you to make yourself feel more whole or connected with reality. People notice that and more often want to connect with that homey feeling in a person. I think that’s why people tend to be drawn to watching people do old handicrafts, or speedrunning games, or sports.
There are some theories that love has to do with how we direct our attention, so while our base judgement of people who are more active is “X likes Y because they’re better than me”, I don’t think that’s really ever the case like how incels view things like a meat market. People who are genuinely looking to connect with someone want to see that that person is attentive: to themselves, to their surroundings, to others. People will value different signifiers based on how they grew up, obviously, but I think that attentiveness and self love is what they all those signifiers have in common.
The big problem is that a lot of this is stuff that I’ve genuinely been trying to work hard on for the last 4-5 years, and not only has it not really changed anything socially about my life (although I have been slightly more stable in employment), it’s all come crashing down on me lately. I got a real bad leg injury (like, probably gonna require surgery to reattach something bad) in the course of keeping up with my regular weight-training routine & my work, and not only is it costing me a lot of money, but it’s also prevented me from moving forward with my life (i.e. getting my own place closer to work).
I’m also someone who didn’t have a lot of opportunities growing up, I don’t feel. I come from, & still live in, a small & relatively poor community, and I myself lived in a trailer park until I was about 12. I’ve also got ASD, and it’s significant enough that I got diagnosed very young & spent nearly all my school years in special education; and where I went to school they were very big on physical restraint & isolation as punishments. My parents, just as well, had a lot of their own problems & were not generally able to pay attention to what was going on with me, or my sister (who has had a whole host of problems on here own). I never had a lot of chances to make friends with people in my time, and when I have tried most don’t seem to care for my company, or my particularities. Admittedly some of that is my own fault though I suppose, as I was not a very happy or positive person for a very long time, and in a lot of ways I’m still not most of the time though I still try & do what I think is right.
I suppose for all of those reasons I don’t really have the ability to be as naturally “attentive” as people might ask or expect of me; and that makes me very dubious of my ability to ever really be a part of society.
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I’m not sure how I want to conclude this now as it’s close to my bedtime, and I’m running out of brain-power to formulate & connect ideas with; but I hope you can figure out what I’m trying to get at here.
