I step out of Hexbear and into another instance for once and immediately get this shit lmao

I was letting off some steam about how sick and tired I am about working a shit job to make some asshole rich, and I made an off hand remark about how my employer probably belongs in a gulag. Further down the reply chain, this lemmitor asshole shows up to send me a whole tirade full of faux concern, breaking out the psychoanalysis to say I’m just an extremist full of unjustified hatred because I must be a bitter loser. Somehow they come up with this nuclear hot take comparing my anger at the capitalist class to a Christian fundamentalist hating gay people.

But the fucking cherry on the top here is sending me this comment as their very first interaction with me and proceeding to instantly block me to deny me the chance to reply at all. I’ve seen others use the block feature as a means of getting the last word in, but never to get both the first and last word in at the same time. And in the end, this self-unaware lib ends up calling me the overly self righteous one. Perfect.

Tbh, what gets me is that they were so fucking close to getting it. They almost came to an accurate understanding of the fact that my material conditions as a poor person getting fucked over day in and day out by my employer stealing my labor will heavily inform my politics. But of course they never quite reach that point, instead bizarrely veering off into psychologizing me, and acting like this is all just some sort of character flaw on my part.

Rule one: https://hexbear.net/comment/4738025

  • Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    8 months ago

    someone who was in a good place in life wouldn’t want to put people in gulags

    Wow @wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com what a revelatory thought! It’s almost like everyone’s lives are getting worse and the people at the bottom are getting increasingly angry about it! It’s almost like capitalism is failing and our numbers are increasing every single day while everyone gets increasingly more and more angry about that?

    Wow it’s almost like the system is not working and is producing the very conditions that will result in its overthrow!

    Wow i wonder if any bearded guy wrote about this occurring.

    Self righteous dumbass thinks belittling people at the bottom “your life is shit lol you don’t get an opinion on society” is the right thing to do instead of asking why society is failing everyone and producing those of us who thoroughly believe the only way that anything will change is revolution.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      8 months ago

      It’s wild how there are neoliberal ghouls on that nominally “leftist” instance. Really makes you wonder if there are some ideological problems with their particular brand of “leftism” that it is so immensely compatible with open chauvinism like that.

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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          8 months ago

          Shut the fuck up and go purge the neoliberal chauvinists from your instance. When it’s actually more recognizable as being anarchist rather than “left-ish with red scare characteristics”, we can talk.

          “Your specific brand of ‘leftism’” did not refer to “anarchism”, it referred to your specific brand, which attracts absolute slime like we see in the OP for reasons that you would do well to figure out.

          CC: @blashork@hexbear.net this is my reasoning. If insulting someone’s boutique nominally-anarchist (actually bidenist) instance is sectarianism, I invite you to take whatever moderation actions you deem appropriate to defend its sordid sanctity.

          • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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            8 months ago

            Well good to know that it’s that easy to work around your community rules by just re-labeling the target as “not real leftists”. As is tradition of course. Carry on then.

                • CascadeOfLight [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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                  8 months ago

                  I’ll spell it out for you a little clearer, since you don’t seem capable of understanding it on your own.

                  Your entire attitude fucking screams “I have nothing good going on in my life, so I’ve adopted an extreme viewpoint that easily allows me to feel superior to others”.

                  You see this shit on all sides of the political spectrum. An example you’re likely familiar with and hate would be fanatical/fundamentalist Christians. Nothing truly going right with their life, so they adopt a belief system that gives them an outlet for their hate/anger/frustration where they don’t have to feel bad about it because they are targeting the “bad guys”.

                  Someone who was in a good place in life wouldn’t be posting shit online calling for putting people in fucking gulags.

                  You can use all the excuses and mental gymanstics you want, but at the end of the day, you’ve adopted an idealogy where extreme actions are justified and right to take against your “enemy”, and where anyone even slightly advocating for you to slow your roll is instantly redefined as an “enemy”.

                  You just did that. You start spouting shit about Americans, and when the guy said he wasn’t one you just said that he effectively was one anyway and kept down the path you were already on. That’s absurd.

                  Anyway, your entire defense for your statements here is that your bad guys are the real bad guys. That’s the beginning and end of it. That type of self righteousness is something to be feared, not something to be championed because you’ve “found the right target”.

                  Please note, I’ve not made any statement on whether you’re wrong or right in your targeting. That’s a separate discussion.

                  It has been demonstrated time and time again in historical record the world over, that the fervor of people like you can and will be abused, and shifted towards wider and wider classifications of “targets”.

                  Anyway, I hope your life situation improves enough someday that you no longer find the need to be a self-righteous asshat on the internet calling for people’s torture. I’m blocking you, so I won’t be around to see it.

                  maddened speech-l

                  up-arrow “A leftist” apparently

            • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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              8 months ago

              As is tradition of course.

              And down goes the paper-thin mask

              Well good to know that it’s that easy to work around your community rules by just re-labeling the target as “not real leftists”.

              My sibling in Christ, when you’re done pissing your pants over my meanie gatekeeping, try actually reading the comments in the OP. That person is a chauvinist explicitly defending the status quo by saying, in so many words, that all “extremists” are mentally-ill losers looking to power trip. Are you saying that it’s newspeak revisionism to claim that a message like that is probably not leftist? Please, tell me where Kropotkin says that revolution is only supported by the bitterest dregs of society and therefore invalid.

              Of course you have no problem with your own fucking redbashing, but opportunistically using this shallow patina of anti-sectarianism when it comes to Your Guys is apparently not below you.

              • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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                8 months ago

                Hey, “no sectarianism” is your rule, not ours. I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy where the rules are easily bent by just arbitrary relabeling the other side. In truth, you never believed in “no sectarianism”. You only use it to enforce groupthink.

                In any case, your whole argument above fails since you generalized against our whole instance.

                • GarbageShoot [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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                  8 months ago

                  All this self-victimizing when it would be so much easier to just ban a blatant chauvinist, but it’s more important to you to own teh sectarian tankies than it is to actually administer your instance according to any set of leftist principles.

                  • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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                    8 months ago

                    All this self-aggrandizement when it would be so much easier to just not generalize based on uncharitable interpretations, but it’s more important to you to own teh liberals than it is to actually administer you community according to your own rules.