Lower-income American households are running out of money at the end of every month, the discount retailer Dollar General said as it released dismal results that drove its shares down more than 30 per cent for their sharpest one-day drop on record.

When the American economy is too rough for Dollar General

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      i think the future of most stores is just to close the inside, turn it into a mini-warehouse that you use an app to preorder or place an order at a window

      no joke i work in a retail sector and a former co-worker asked a C-suite guy what the company’s “vision” was for the future and he basically said that

      so won’t even be 3 jobs eventually. 1 maybe.

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        Honestly in store retail is a fucking nightmare of work that only exists because customers are careless and lazy. Customers will upend an entire table of folded clothes like pigs rooting through the brush for forage and SOMEONE has to fix it. It can take hours to fold and reorganize a section of clothing only for some shithead to come fuck it up again in 2 minutes.

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          I got fired from Walmart for looking too sad. Working in apparel was Sisyphean for this exact reason and I was expected to just be happy about it.

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            Working in apparel was Sisyphean

            it really really is, thankfully I was mitigated from most of the clothing stuff (working in electronics, then housewares, etc, only having to fold sometimes) but it was still fucked. I hated every second of it. And doing the online order fulfillment, which was honestly the best work in retail because you’re just going around looking for shit all day and not bothered by people, was still intensely frustrating because you’d have to literally check everywhere for things sometimes because people just put shit wherever. Every time I was given an order for an item that was in the back room, it was like, fuck yes because I wouldn’t have to go digging for it

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            Being expected to pretend to be happy being an over-worked and grossly underpaid flesh-automaton is the most demoralizing part of the whole thing.

            It’s part of why I quit working and had a mental breakdown until I got on disability.

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          my first girlfriend was like that… when we were first dating we used to go ShopKo because there was nowhere really to go and it was air conditioned, but she pulled clothes off the rack, held them up to herself, then threw them on the floor one after the other to my horror. I immediately picked all the clothes up and started putting them back on the rack, while she laughed at me. Then she saw how disgusted I was and she never did that again.

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          We should RETVRN to storefronts where you can see 1 (1) of every item so you know what is available and then you put in your order. Or you just put your order in in advance. The supermarket experience of poring over rows of identical packaging is a marketing hellscape that harms both customers and workers.

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            like literally just kiosk screens outside (or an air conditioned waiting place idk)

            they can literally put cameras in the bins if they need to “see” the produce or whatever, if it’s groceries, or just like idk fuck em what you get is what you get. it’s less of an issue with household goods that are essentially identical

            man, add to my complaints about wasted hours, the number of times I’ve had to painstakingly figure out how to put stuff back into a box, because some customer wanted to look inside, and if I don’t put it back just right it’ll be obvious it was tampered with and nobody will buy it

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        The whole point of the reail shop was to make the shoppers do the labor of walking the storehouse, finding the items, picking them, colating them, and transporting them. Converting every store into a mini warehouse will increase labor costs. It will require consolidation to achieve the vision you have put forth.

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          A store like Walmart has a back storage/staging area. Employees have to move product to the salesfloor anyways. They get interrupted by customers asking for stuff. They also have to worry about cleanups and security and organizing for customers rather than quick picking.

          Dollar general takes that and scales it down. They remove the storage/staging. But it works the same way. The story is designed for customers and employees must support customers. Removing the customer presence eliminates a lot of friction from a systems standpoint.

          Either way employees must walk the floor. You can’t really offload the cost of that onto the customer. One employee picking 5 orders at once eliminates a lot of foot-traffic in the store.

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            I think if you did the analysis, you’d see exactly why retail stores exist and why Piggly Wiggly was an innovator in creating a massively profitable model - picking is a laborious, time consuming, human activity. If you can make your customers pick their own orders, you save massively on labor.

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                has this other guy heard of Amazon, like they seem to think warehouses don’t work when i’m pretty sure Amazon isn’t being bankrupted by the labor costs of not having customers making a mess of their stock through shopping

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                  Have you seen what Amazon has to do to make their warehouses cost effective? It’s a massive endeavor that requires incredible infrastructure. They aren’t just converting random retail storefronts into fulfillment centers.

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                    whatever you say hoss, I’ve worked retail and I can assure you that customers are morons who cause unimaginable amounts of busy work for people and I could have served a vastly greater quantity of goods to people if they were not physically present.

                    I can’t tell you how many hours of my life have been wasted folding shit just so it looks nice only for it to be torn through again in a matter of moments. Or how many hours I’ve spent doing online order fulfillment looking for shit that, without the storefront, would simply be stored in a bin, but woops, no, I have to search literally an entire store because customers take shitc and put it in random places, because they’re too fucking lazy and inconsiderate to even return the items to an employee if they don’t want them.

                    Retail is a fucking hell of work that should not exist, and its workers are treated like dogshit servants

                    also doing online order fulfillment without the customers shopping is literally what this is about. I was ALREADY DOING IT. Just with the task made infinitely more difficult by people ALSO shopping. Idk what you’re on where you think removing the customers presence from this is somehow untenable

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                    AND FURTHERMORE, I would really like to stress AGAIN the HOURS OF MY LIFE wasted on cleaning up after customers like they’re toddlers.

                    Multiply that by every person working retail. That is untold millions of labor hours spent fixing problems that should not exist.

                    You go off about efficiency or cost or whatever, but guess what you’re not considering? The current model is only cost effective because the cost of these MILLIONS OF LABOR HOURS are artificially depressed by capitalist labor relations and low minimum wages. You think people want to be servants picking up after grown adults who act like children? Fuck no, but they have rent and groceries to pay for, or they’ll DIE.

                    Like tell me more about what’s cost effective when this is only “cost effective” or even POSSIBLE because of wage slavery

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        ordering stuff for in store pick up is the best. Roll up, grab your shit, leave. No wasted time wandering the aisles

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          I had a couple of experiences with online grocery shopping, specially during the pandemic. One was in a fancy web store where I had to see every product to select what I needed, the other one a small minimarket where I sent my grocery list in a whatapp chat and was done, if there was something missing they just chat me back. From what brands, I just said wharever except Nestlé. When I moved to another part of the city that minimarket was a great loss from us.

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        My building have a mini market with no employees, you just take what you need and pay with the app. I guess they still have at least one employee supplying a couple of different buildings, but that makes its less that one employee for store.