For anyone who is wondering who posted this it was from the TERF Fascist Dr. Loupis

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    Yeah the US hasn’t had consistent definitions of who counts as white, or what different races even are. I don’t trust 1940s census data to reflect demographics in 2010. Like my friend’s grandparents in the 1950s got arrested for miscegenation because the wife was Cajun and the husband Italian. Not to mention the quagmire of whether or not Latino is white.

    I’m also reminded of Dow v. United States, where Syrians got legally classified as white under the logic that since Jesus was white, therefore other middle easterners are white. The USA has a completely fascist social caste system of race, where whiteness serves as an elite social category rather than anything specific to heritage or even skin color sometimes. Like ask anyone if Muslims are white, even if they have fair complexions and have primarily European ancestry.

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      my favorite quote about this:

      1. Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in Mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People? why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red? But perhaps I am partial to the Compexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind.
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      AFAIK Arabs were still considered white all the way into the 1960s. It wasn’t until American adventurism in the middle east the classification changed. Latinos were considered non-white prior to WWII. There weren’t enough Latinos to make up segregated units like the Black Panthers or Red Tails, so they were made white to be assigned to white units. After WWII, their whiteness was revoked.

      side note: Alec Guinness did brown face in Lawrence of Arabia and worked with a lot of Arabs to develop the role. I suspect they may have thought nothing of it (Guinness or the Arabs coaching him) because of the race classifications of the time. The role still should have gone to an Arab actor, though.

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    Here’s hoping that someday that map is entirely purple, that whatever white genetics remain are at least 50% enriched with indigenous or melanated genes and cracKKKerism is rejected by the masses (even those who are white).

    Whiteness (the “white” identity that is) really is the most pathetic, fragile, and vile of social constructs. The only way they could expand and sustain themselves from the rest of humanity is through genocidal massacres and enforcing racial castes and segregation (even in Europe), and just reverting to the natural process of human intermingling destroys their racial “garden.”

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    The thing that I get weirded out by in the U.S. is WHY IN THE GODDAMN IS IT NORMAL TO COUNT PEOPLE BASED ON SKIN COLOR, like mfs be like “Sorbs make up 0.0005% of the population of Wisconsin yet they do 0.098% of all bus robbing crimes” motherfucker why is that reported?

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      You kind of have to if you want to actually track things like poverty by racial lines. Now if you are referring to the way the usans do it, then yeah it’s ridiculous.

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    The chart must be using percentages or something because for example, Texas had about 5.4M whites in 1940 and 11.4M whites in 2010. Doesn’t look like a decline to me.