UniversalMonk Lemmy Stats:
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Either this is a dedicated basement dweller who has no life other than shitposting tankie propaganda like it is their fucking job.
(Or, and I think this is more likely)
This is a coordinated, and malignant effort by a group of bad faith actors to coopt the political discourse on Lemmy in an attempt to drown out real discussion, and turn this place into the tankie equivalent of 8chan for pro-Putin LARPers.
It is clear they should be banned already.
I think it does bring up some larger issues though. Like should limits be placed on accounts. Do we really want users like this? Are they adding to the experience?
Ban because you disagree with them? And you people say that Republicans are authoritarian.
Try harder please. I have read several articles posted by OP. They clearly have an agenda and have engaged in a lot of trolling behavior.
So the question is having an active troll/propagandist really good for the community. Maybe you could argue that they generate engagement or that we need to protect people’s right to disagree.
The community should carefully weigh this moving forward. If accounts that act like bots are allowed then this place will follow in the footsteps of Digg or Reddit.
Personally, I would have already set them straight as a moderator. I have never been impressed by edgy people who add very little to the conversation.
I think basement dweller is much more likely. Let’s not forget, trolling is fun at a certain age. It’s a recreational activity, engaged in as a way to enjoyably pass the time. This is why the advice always used to be to not interact, and just starve them of any engagement so it stopped being enjoyable. To not feed them.
That stopped working when real effects also became achievable, but we shouldn’t forget that the first motivation is still there. Just because ignoring them won’t make them go away now, because they’re trying to actually work on a nebulous goal, doesn’t mean it ever stopped being fun.
I mean, is it so hard to believe, when we used to get regularly DDoSed and even occasionally hacked, that we’d also pick up some dedicated trolls from time to time? It’d frankly be pretty naive to think we’d be so lucky, if someone has ever spent any time in the seedier corners of the internet where these things come from.
It’s that fun aspect we have to remember. I mean, I disagree with ozma, Linker, jimmydore, lots of people very regularly, but they’re not stringing out dozen+ long comment chains just trying to irritate the person they’re interacting with at whatever moment. They’re not trolling, they just have strong opinions. It’s specifically that having fun at other people’s expense thing that makes this one different. And frankly, it’s very common on the internet, just usually not so much in moderated spaces, when the mods are being appropriately responsible. The rest of the internet is still out there though, can always go spend some time on 4chan’s /pol/ if you need to see the sorts of things we’re dealing with. Maybe a LoL lobby, I hear those are lovely. Maybe the comments sections under some Gamergate youtuber’s videos, or Ben Shapiro or someone.
Plenty of places you can find people that just want to have a good time at your expense. For fun, with just a side dose of fuck-the-world.
And then of course, there are those people who like to engage and accuse just so they can increase comment counts:
You keep that saved like its some damning thing, but it’s really not. Trolling is actually harmful to a community. That’s not.
Thanks for the shout-out! I feel so special that you think so highly of me!
OR I mean, it might just be that I’m an older, semi-retired guy with some extra time who genuinely enjoys keeping up with third-party news and socialist movements. Not very complicated.
But your theory makes it sound way more fun and exciting! Like I’m some kind of super agent involved in a multi-layered grand conspiracy to… to… what exactly? Oh yeah, post articles on a tiny Lemmy forum that get downvoted immediately!
Still, the way you describe it, I almost feel cooler just reading it!
I’m just about to post a few more articles, so if you could please update your stats when you post, that would be awesome! Thank you! :)
For the good of the entire fucking world, Jill Stein should go away. Go back to practicing medicine, where you’re usually limited to only killing one person at a time.
There’s no excuse for the Democrats’ support for Israel’s genocidal wars, and Biden is complicit in his unwavering material (materiel? Both? Both.) support that allows them to continue doing it. I hate that if I don’t vote for the enabling-genocide party, I’ll get the enabling-genocide-but-also-women-are-things-and-LGBTQ-people-shouldn’t-exist party.
So instead her goal is to ensure the election of Donald Trump and his merry band of eschatological fetishists, who’ll not only do the same thing because their literal goal is to bring about the apocalypse, but also bring back all his very smart domestic policies and hand the government over to the Project 2025 fanatics to turn the United States into Gilead. Brilliant. Real big-picture thinking there, doctor.
I’d argue she shouldn’t be allowed to practice anything other than some deep breathing and self-reflection.
Good thing you’re not in charge, then!
Go back to practicing medicine, where you’re usually limited to only killing one person at a time.
Any source or links that say she kills people as a doctor?
Yay more nonsense about Jill Stein from someone who prefers a Trump victory. Everyone enjoy your dose of bad faith comments from OP while they continue their totally real crusade against the duopoly. Absolutely not a troll account managed by a bunch of people spamming bullshit day in and day out.
I didn’t write the article, so how does that mean I prefer a Trump victory. If I preferred a Trump victory, wouldn’t it just be easier for me to vote for him?!
Absolutely not a troll account managed by a bunch of people spamming bullshit day in and day out.
Thank you for realizing and admitting that you know I’m not a troll account managed by a bunch of people! :)
“We would rather let Trump endorse killing everyone in Gaza before supporting a cease fire and two state solution.”
That’s really what this boils down to.
Who?
Yeah, she’ll stop Kamala and hand it to Trump. Nobody is “flocking” to her.
Well if no one is flocking to her, then you don’t have to worry about her stopping Harris. Right?
Saying the quiet part out loud?
This will cause a firestorm.
Maybe. When and if this silly bint gets Trump elected he will happily sell Israel enough incendiary weapons to vaporize every Palestinian alive.
It might. And I’ll probably get lots messages about how I am voting for Trump (which I’m not). All because I posted the article. lol
I wonder if she’s willing to risk the future of democracy in America to detach the US from Israel.
It appears so.
You sound like you believe her BS. She risks the future of democracy in America for Putin, and detaching the US from Israel is the means, not the ends.
How is the future of democracy going to be risked?
“When I’m president you’ll never have to [get to] vote again!”-the orange turd.
But it’s okay, Because you’re not afraid of trump.
Correct, I am not afraid. Thank you!
Jill Stein cannot win this election. She can only spoil it for Kamala Harris and in so doing pass the win to Donald Trump.
Donald Trump and the RNC are a material threat to democracy in the USA.
Maybe the Democrats should be nicer to Green Voters instead of calling them idiots or traitors every time they say they are gonna vote Green.
I’m not voting Green party, but the hate and rudeness I have received here guaranteed that I won’t vote Democrat. No way.
Trump is the bed liberals made for themselves when they kept punching left and ignoring everyone telling them what would happen if you supported Clinton in 2016. And we were right about how things played out.
100%. Harris is no peach either. I’d much rather someone with Stein’s policies win.
But she doesn’t have any chance. And it’s imperative that Trump not win.
You’re agreeing with someone who would rather have trump than anyone else.
And let’s be honest here, steins foreign policy is almost literally cut and pasted from the kremlin’s party line. I assume they fixed some translation errors.
It can both be true that the DNC helped in some way to move the Overton Window in the US rightward and that the primary movers of said window, the fascist RNC party, must not win the election or the consequences will be dire.
Stein’s policies are simply more progressive and better for America. But they’re likely unobtainable in the current political climate and she can afford to make such grandiose goals as policy because she isn’t beholden to them as she has no chance of winning.
Fuck Jill Stein. I’m not interested in evaluating the policy positions of a wack job who is now clearly only here to be a spoiler.
I like some of Stein’s policies, but a lot of them are just silly and naive. She wants to abolish the Electoral College, for instance. Great, but since that’s directly in the Constitution, she’s going to get an amendment through with a 2/3rds vote in both houses of Congress and ratified by 3/4ths the states? Which kinda requires some of the red ones?
Then big one for me, is “peace-loving” Stein is critical of Ukraine aid. I cannot support hanging them out to dry like that, even though we promised to help keep them secure after convincing them to de-nuclearize, after the fall of the USSR in the Budapest Memorandum.
Our word has to be worth more than that.
I’m all for progress towards a utopian world, but offering one as your policy platform is a little manipulative when we have a government of checks and balances that has some republicans in it.
Yep! I would have voted for Bernie!
Trump is an incompetent idiot. I don’t think he’s a threat to democracy though. I’m not afraid of him. You are free to be, but nah, I’m not.
The man literally advocated for an American Kristallnacht at a rally recently.
You are a fool to not see him and his dictatorial ambitions as a threat. Project 2025 clearly outlines the RNC’s goals to shift the nation towards a dictatorship and remove dissident ideologies by force.
Furthermore, the future for Palestine will fare no better under Trump than Harris. All Stein is doing by purposely trying to spoil a win for Harris is enabling and aiding the growth of fascism in the US.
I’m not scared of him at all. I like Stein, even tho I’m not voting for her.
How is Stein a spoiler? Most of us wouldnt vote for Harris even if there were no 3rd party. Harris is now backed by the guy that helped write P2025 and helped found the Heritage Foundation, and that’s how it will end up being bipartisan with liberals supporting it in a few years. Liberals are cheering in their party becoming a full fledged openly right wing party
How are you someone to be taken seriously? Like Stein, there’s public history to consider.
She’s a spoiler because she can’t get to 270. It’s literally impossible because she’s not on enough ballots.
Also dude liberals are and have always been center right…Clinton’s didn’t push the gop further right, the GOP went on their own.
She’s on enough ballots to get 538 The DNC pushed the RNC further to the right as they kept pushing their own party to the right.
If you didn’t know about Stein I’m betting you know nothing about triangulation, the DLC, Third Way Democrats. All Bill Clinton policies to shift your party into becoming right wing conservatives they are today. Far enough right wing for people like Heritage Foundation founder members endorsing Harris. The same guy that wrote P2025.
Put down the crack pipe.
I’m guessing you wouldn’t know politicalcorruption if it was standing in front of demanding you vote for it
My brother! Who gets accused of being a bot more, you or me?!
I’m not afraid of him
Gee, I wonder why.
“The leopard surely won’t eat my face! I’m helping get him elected!”
That could just never happen.
As you well know, Trump has already tried a coup once and has promised many authoritarian horrors. No one believes you don’t know about that stuff.
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