Why now? Does it actually do something?
Some tech scantions from when the war started went into effect. Allowing access to Russians is now a complicated legal risk. Even Linux was forced to block devs.
Must prevent them from training drone operators on PC’s with Nvidia. Of course there’s no other way they can get those drivers. The program is operated by 10yo sim players. They won’t be able to use Tor or VPNs or proxies. This is a very smart plan to optimize manpower, but Nvidia is smarter. Smarrrrt!
If, I have learned anything from YouTube it’s that if a multi trillion dollar international mega conglomerate doesn’t want you to have it, no matter how impossible it may seem they can stop you from getting it they just need enough market incentives.
This could just be one small step in a much larger plan or it could be placating the United States government whose to say.
How to do nothing while appearing to.
That sounds good and all, but the ones aho are really affected are the powerless people.
Most sanctions, aside from ones aimed at individuals, are going to have indirect effect. That is, they will produce pressure on Russia in aggregate, and that means that they’ll impact the typical citizen.
But that being said, there have been a lot of sanctions applied, and…the impact on Nvidia drivers isn’t, I think, really a huge one relative to those. Like, things like cutting off access to all kinds of electronics parts and payment system access and stuff are going to be, I’d say, a lot more impactful to a typical person in Russia, even if the impact is secondary.
Am I going crazy or is that the framework ceo in that stock photo?
Nirav Patel
He used to work at nVidia, so this is very possible it’s him. They do look very similar.
The smart ones will be unaffected as nouveau, as distributed through package managers, remains unaffected.
And the really smart ones don’t even have nvidia hardware to begin with.
Pretty much for form I suppose, there are other ways to get those drivers.
I’ve been in a few online games with RU players and it struck me as so weird to be playing a game with someone from a nation we are basically at war with. Major WWI Xmas football vibes.
I feel that many Russians are against Putler’s regime, but are (rightfully so) too afraid to speak up.
You are wrong. More than half are in favor of the war in Ukraine.
How is what he said wrong? 25% is “many Russians”.
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25% of 150 million is a pretty large number of people. “Many” is vague enough that you shouldn’t be calling anyone dumb over it.
75% of 150 million is still a significantly larger number, regardless. In this context, does not fall under “many”.
And calling a pro-Russian troll dumb is fine, because only feelings are hurt, meanwhile actual lives are being lost thanks to Russians invading Ukraine, and is competitively worse.
There can be multiple groups of many people in a population. It doesn’t have to be a majority to be significant.
I think you’re confusing “many” with “most”. The definition of “many” does not mean the largest, just simply large.
Hmm little aggressive ya?
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I’m going by this definition of “many”: a large but indefinite number. Identifying the larger percentage, 75% or 25%, isn’t much of a challenge 😉
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25% of millions of people is still many people, they didn’t say “a majority of people”.
How would that number change if all those people had access to independent reporting?
There’s an old joke about agents from the CIA and KGB sharing a drink at a pub in Berlin.
“I have to admit, I’m always so impressed by Soviet propaganda. You really know how to get people worked up,” the CIA agent says.
“Thank you,” the KGB says. “We do our best but truly, it’s nothing compared to American propaganda. Your people believe everything your state media tells them.”
The CIA agent drops his drink in shock and disgust. “Thank you friend, but you must be confused… There’s no propaganda in America.”
That is a truly excellent joke. I will remember that
The Trumpublicans in the U.S. have access to independent reporting, yet they choose instead to limit themselves to lies that make them feel like they’re better than everyone else.
I don’t have access to it, but allegedly on VK which is the Russian knockoff of Facebook, they also have similar numbers of a majority in favor of destroying Ukraine.
Maybe it would change but Russian culture is still Russian culture.
Seriously, you can’t unshit a pool.
In favor of what? They aren’t being told the truth about anything. They’re in favor of an imaginary war for imaginary reasons.
That may be true. But I tend to believe factual journalism over a random internet person’s conjecture that you seem to be sure of for some reason.
Yikes. Sucks to live there. Maybe they should do something about it?
I mean given that you get arrested for a showing a blank piece of paper and sent to prison/gulag… Do you really think that de-annonymised people would put their opinions forward?
But also in the west where we don’t have quite such a police state, we still do have many people who vote against their interests until their own interests are being affected…
Moral of the story… Humans suck
Humans suck
Conservatives suck. The normal people are actually pretty cool.
As they should be. US/NATO expansion is an existential threat to Russia. CIA even more brazenly embraced would divide and conquer Russia through splitting it into warring provinces. US has no intention of improving humanity/world if it reduces subjugation to the empire.
The last thing the US wants is a civil war and mass instability in a nuclear nation. That has the capability to shatter MAD. At best, the US wants a regime change.
They have no qualms about taunting a nuclear powered Russia. The return of a CIA puppet like Yeltsin is not likely, but just as Ukraine, there is not the slightest US concern for the welfare/benefit of people. Just destruction, hike price of oil, sell a lot of weapons, and buy the ruins for cheap.
Russia is the existential threat to Russia, that’s literally all of Russian history in a nutshell followed by ‘and then it got worse’.
Russia will collapse into multiple fragments, because Russians are just idiots who have never agreed on anything without a gun pointed at their families.
It’s hilarious how lucky China is to have the largest natural resource motherlode right next door, Russia was asking to be dismantled!
It’s not that they’re for or against. They don’t care.
there are other ways to get those drivers.
Not only will they have back doors, but they’ll be screening for shittier updates and working on hacks that liberate the hardware from proprietary software updates.
Beginning to feel like the good old Internet Wild West over on the eastern internet.
They should give access to one last update that displays “Fuck Putin” on your screen at all times
Feel bad for the average Joe over there.
Be that as it may, this is very much part of the intent of the sanctions. Creating popular dissent and dissatisfaction within Russia due to Putin’s insistence on carrying out a war of aggression is very much by design. This is the Second Cold War. We’re in it.
Nvidia is a western lie, comrade. You don’t need it.
Weird timing
Yes, especially in light of the Linux thing this morning
Yeah… weird how sanctions work… it’s like they’re broad and affect many people and entities…
We should ask Deepcool about their experience with non-compliance.
Ok cool but we are talking about timing so
Most likely coincidence. The sanctions came into effect and their respective lawyers took about the same time to come up with a policy that complies with them. There’s nothing more to the story that would make it weird.
Huh, it’s almost as if, when sanctions are declared, they go into effect for everyone at once.
Yeah, along with this I am suspecting there’s been a “suggested interpretation” from western governments to large orgs.
That’s a very good way to put it !
I’m OOTL. What Linux thing are you talking about?
A bunch of .ru email holders have been removed from the linux kernel group because of sanctions
Ahhh I see. Thank you!
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linus-Torvalds-Russian-Devs
The Linux project removed maintainers who were Russian or were using Russian e-mail addresses, probably to comply with sanctions. Linus hasn’t talked about the legal details because he doesn’t know if he can (and because Daddy Vladdy’s Dick Chuggers are out in full force).
Sucks to suck.
Oh nyoo, they’ll have to use the open source ones!!
Haven’t the common folk been through enough?/s
(And the open sauce nVidia drivers got actually completely viable, great effort & results)They could still just download the official drivers straight from the NVIDIA website with a VPN. Or from a mirror without one.
Did NVIDIA stop selling videocards in Russia? The article doesn’t mention it.
Did NVIDIA stop selling videocards in Russia?
kagis
https://www.pcmag.com/news/nvidia-to-stop-all-product-sales-to-russia
Nvidia Stops All Product Sales to Russia
March 5, 2022
So, yes, though I don’t think that it matters a huge amount, since companies are just gonna re-export them out of China or Kazakhstan or wherever. I mean, it’s not like the hardware has some kind of region-locking. It’s a piece of consumer hardware, sold and resold anonymously all over the place. It’s not some kind of specialized military hardware with four end customers and tight control over the movement of the product.
kagis
https://hardwaretimes.com/nvidia-loses-just-2-of-its-revenue-as-offices-are-shut-down-in-russia/
In October [2022], NVIDIA officially shut down all its operations in Russia as sales of both data center and consumer graphics cards were wrapped up. At the time, around 240 employees worked for the Santa Clara-based company. These folks were given the option to either relocate abroad or look for other jobs.
Furthermore, NVIDIA hardware has been banned from sale via official channels.
Fortunately for Team Green, the Russian Federation represented a minor market for its wide portfolio. Disclosures from the Q3 2022 earnings report indicate that the Federation accounted for just 2% of its revenue and 4% for the gaming business.
Although channel partners are forbidden to sell the latest GeForce RTX 40 series graphics cards, Russian gamers can still procure them from the grey market.
It’ll probably add cost and some risk of getting ripped off and no manufacturer’s warranty, but I would be surprised if someone who wanted a new GPU couldn’t continue to get ahold of one in Russia, given enough funds.
EDIT: Does make me wonder about Windows-side driver updates. Like, people here are talking about Linux. Windows requires driver signing, and I don’t know if those signatures are region-specific.
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Hacker sanctions are finally real.
This has no sense
They will just come up with a new Runix OS with Ruvidia drivers. It might be like the time the Germans invented modern rocketry, the pulse engine and the turbine engine.
It’s relatively bad news maybe. Same in China.
I’m sure they’ll try, just like they tried to copy IBM mainframes, the IBM pc, the Apollo program, and nuclear power.
They’re too stupid to do it, you see, all the smart soviets who were capable of thinking were from Ukraine, which is why they’re designing Hunter killer drones in a cave with a box of scraps.
Russians without Ukrainians can’t invent anything, which is why the t14 and su57 aren’t in Ukraine, the semhat exploded on the pad (which would be hilarious if it had a payload), and they’re just generally pathetic failures at everything else.
