• Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world
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      The margin of error for the national survey is +/- 1.82 percentage points at the 95% level of confidence

      Jesus Christ. The methodology actually sounds good. This is… So very, very troubling for our nation.

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        We’ve been a deeply racist and violent country for longer than we’ve been a country. Built on genocide and slavery. We didn’t properly address our failures when we had the chance (Civil War should have ended with a new constitution and drastically different political structure to keep militant bigots from gaining power) and now we have this.

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        Almost 27% identify as independent?

        Ive never seen any voting poll that even comes close to that. Majority in the survey are white, 50+, evangelical/mainline christian midwestern/southerners. That demographic doesn’t help skew to 27% independent to me. The study posted source and methodology though so I don’t know what to say.

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          Anecdotal, but my father, a white 50+ Christian Midwestern man, has made it very clear he’s voting for Trump a third time. He’s Republican in every way except on paper, because he’s registered independent and identifies as such. So there’s that

          Edit, Google turns up this as the first result. In fact, every poll and article I found at a cursory gland supported that. Where are you getting your information that most voters aren’t independent?

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            Yeah, OP is forgetting about all those capital-C Conservatives that won’t register Republican because the Republicans are too moderate and those that left the party specifically so they can disavow this type of rhetoric but still vote straight ®.

            There are a ton of independents that are “inverse RINOs” meaning they are Republicans in everything but name.

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            The results in any election? 27% claim independent, yet any major election is vastly R or D.
            My thing is, claiming your I but not voting that way is odd. I think we can say most libertarians that would be part of this independent block end up voting R.

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              Claiming independent doesn’t mean you won’t vote Democratic or Republican. There’s no “I” party

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                And even if there were, First Past The Post means a vote for anybody but D or R means you’re taking a vote away from your preferred D or R candidate. A smart “I” voter would only vote for an “I” party (if one existed) in cases where the more preferred D or R candidate was already basically guaranteed to win, so their third-party vote wouldn’t affect the D or R result.

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      Well, based on your and other responses I guess I’ve been giving my fellow Americans too much credit…