This is all they give us other than party affiliation and religion:

The vast majority of Americans who most trust far-right news (91%) or Fox News (82%) favor militarized encampments for undocumented immigrants, compared with 44% of Americans who do not watch TV news and 36% who most trust mainstream TV news.

I always love when dems suddenly lose the concept of statistics or the concept of polling.

“Only 27% of the country voted for republicans last election so that means that 73% of the country supports democrats.”

Somewhere on reddit, some dork is arguing that 5,352 people is not a good enough sample size.

What do you think the push for denaturalization is for? They’re not interested in the mask.

Yeah, it’s disturbing to see the uptick in anti-homeless rhetoric. You hear them being called “zombies” and “not people”.

The maddening part is that it’s still cheaper to put them into houses but that would require you to admit they’re human.

Libs not seeming to realize how far their elected reps are to the right of them will never not be infuriating.

“One party wants to have camps for immigrants and thenother party wants to tax rich people and do universal healthcare.”

Oh, fucking really? Why don’t you go ahead and point me to the one political party that allegedly supports it.

It’s like pot legalization. 80% of dems and 60% of the total population wants it but even fucking new york state won’t just legalize it.

Not that pot legalization is in the top 10 biggest concerns but it’s a perfect example of how dems instinctively refuse to do even the least controversial wildly popular thing.

That comment pissed me off, the whole trend of doomerist opportunism too. this site is so often just a black hole that no one is interested in fighting against and I’m fucking myself up wasting my time trying in the tide of it. It’s an active negation of revolutionary consciousness in an environment which needs it cultivated and brought into the real material world. So many people seem near universally more interested in uncritical and angry insular bias-spirals and opportunist defeatism, opportunist self-confirmation of ‘nothing to be done’ and ‘might as well flee’ (which shows a petty-bourgeois affordance), and the worst: opportunism-masquerading-as-principle then shit out onto others in a misery-loves-company kind of way, than anything else constructive. Just straight-line-segment-from-the-curve understandings, as fuel for undialectical projections of doomsaying, so do-nothing opportunists can say “SEE?!?!?!” at whatever they think gives them the opportunity and get applause from other do-nothings, which facilitates the furthering the comparative growth of reaction more than the reactionaries are capable of facilitating themselves than if people were interested in constructive active forward-moving analysis of things.

Socialists in the real world (which are exponentially growing in number every month and have been for almost a decade) I’ve worked with don’t talk like people here, by and large engage more healthily about problems in society, and are more interested in engaging critically along lines of where the problems are and aren’t in given things, and working the angles to separate them along dividing lines. This site is 75+% online ultra-leftism wearing the mask of something else. There are people who have been being tortured in US prisons for decades for their activism who have more revolutionary spirit, optimism, fluidity, criticality, and desire for and KNOWLEDGE OF whole-inclusive revolutionary change, and active political consciousness and preparedness to fight by it than the metaphysical one-sided self-satisfied petty-bourgeois-oriented shit I see here.

“iF oNlY i HaD oRgAniZeD mOrE~” People who say this shit are do-nothings. People who support and further it are do-nothings, thinking the people who turned out in the Floyd uprisings, the ever-growing militant labor and tenant movements, and even students occupying colleges at the cost of their petty bourgeois futures over Palestine (A THING WHICH DOESN’T DIRECTLY EFFECT THEM, compared to Vietnam protests where they were being DRAFTED — a MARK OF ELEVATED CONSCIOUSNESS) are nothing compared to these 5000 home-owners (or otherwise long-term tenants) who decide to partake in a shitty religious email survey? Because, and not just from this, that’s what I get and what I hear, more than I get or hear anything else on this site. I wonder, where have these people been this past 10 years, if they have not been on the street seeing what I’ve seen in just my small part of it? They seem to be seeing less than comrades writing from inside prison walls somehow.

Yes the US, particularly in its bourgeois and petty bourgeois, is largely reactionary, we know this (without this trash ‘American Academy of Religion’ member survey which should be thrown in the trash); particularly in the ongoing historical inheritance of colonial relations, and that this is an avenue where false-consciousness gets pushed when alternatives are not posited and constructed due to these historical relations and its inherited contradictions. But Christ. I’ve seen more things and comments on this site, whose only purpose and only constructed framing is to uncritically reinforce insular and doomsaying biases as dead-end metaphysical ‘truths’, to spiral people into do-nothing emptiness and defeatism before any battle has even been fought by ANY of the people saying these things; than I’ve seen constructive forward-moving dialectical considerations. I’ve seen more attempts by do-nothings to self-indulgently self-satisfyingly panic-monger and doomsay about their imagined reality “out there” where they do not stand or in some dreamed-up future, to inflame destructive and opportunist impulses in people to make more do-nothings (or worse), than positive construction toward anything — or even serious Marxist criticality toward circumstances or material put forward, as long as it confirms OPPORTUNIST, ULTRA-LEFT BIASES and helps people feel like their do-nothingism is somehow ‘principled analysis’ and they can feel self-satisfied in saying so. Which is effectively reactionary, discouraging socialists of the possibility and reality of change being built, and passing it off as ‘principled analysis’ based on one’s own shallow and actively-sought bias-confirmation as a metaphysical truth, rather than developing working and critical dialectical consideration in one’s analysis of material circumstances and events, their internal components, and relations to other circumstances and events as a whole living reality and unfolding history in which we are all partaking in in the ways we do.

The flight of some people from the underground could have been the result of their fatigue and dispiritedness. Such individuals may only be pitied; they should be helped because their dispiritedness will pass and there will again appear an urge to get away from philistinism, away from the liberals and the liberal-labour policy, to the working-class underground. But when the fatigued and dispirited use journalism as their platform and announce that their flight is not a manifestation of fatigue, or weakness, or intellectual woolliness, but that it is to their credit, and then put the blame on the “ineffective,” “worthless,” “moribund,” etc., underground, these runaways then become disgusting renegades, apostates. These runaways then become the worst advisers for the working-class movement and therefore its dangerous enemies.

Log off and join an org

it was a sarcastic comment I made, but I agree it was trash and I deleted it soon after making it.

why should you leave, they’re the ones that suck

Every day I wish there was a place that was willing to take me so I could gtfo of this place

The population of rome eventually emptied out to 1% of it’s peak population during the roman empire’s long decline. People either died or left. If and when it’s possible, leaving is better.

Well according to they already have “AK-47 Supers” that not even the US military could get their hands on, so we’re already half way there!

Poll: https://www.prri.org/research/challenges-to-democracy-the-2024-election-in-focus-findings-from-the-2024-american-values-survey/

Axios summary:

Nearly 79% of Republicans favor putting undocumented immigrants in encampments, compared with 47% of independents and 22% of Democrats.
The vast majority of Americans who most trust far-right news (91%) or Fox News (82%) favor militarized encampments for undocumented immigrants, compared with 44% of Americans who do not watch TV news.

Among non-white Christians, around 47% of Hispanic Protestants, 42% of Black Protestants and 33% of Hispanic Catholics favor this policy.
39% of Jewish Americans and 32% of religiously unaffiliated Americans support the idea.

Jones says the Alien Enemies Act was used just 80 years ago in World War II and there are people still alive who remember it.
"So it's not unimaginable that it can happen again. This is not just rhetoric here. I do think it's one of the more disturbing things that we found."

52% of respondents said they favor allowing immigrants brought illegally to the U.S. as children to gain legal resident status — a 10-point decrease since the first time PRRI asked the question in 2018.
In addition, 51% of those surveyed support building a wall along the U.S. border with Mexico — a 10-point jump since 2016, when the question was first asked.

Valiente Action Fund, for example, tells Axios it found that hard negative ads against Trump, showing how his policies would separate families, swayed some Black and Latino male voters who were previously supporting hard immigration policies.
"We have to tell that story, and not let Trump define immigration for our country," Valiente Action Fund executive director Maria Rodriguez tells Axios.

The margin of sampling error is +/- 1.82 percentage points at the 95% confidence level, for results based on the entire sample.

militarized camps

holding facilities

Historically, 79% of Republicans = 100% of Republican senators, and 22% of Democrats = ~80% of Democratic senators, so it sounds like this is on track to get Patriot Act numbers in Congress.

It’s called bipartisanship sweaty maybe if you redfash tankies learned about it you’d build power more successfully

I think they may just feel like “militarized” is problematic. They already don’t have a problem with kids in cages, especially after the Biden admin changed the name and painted pretty murals on the facilities.