Must be nice to turn your brain off anytime team blue is in charge.
Trump is the real harm reduction candidate, libs only put up any resistance when he’s in charge despite his policy not meaningfully differing from Biden’s or Harris’s.
Nah, I think that that goes too far. I voted Green and support everyone else’s decision to do the same but even when Trump was president and the “resistance” was always largely performative.
It’s true that under Trump liberals mostly still stayed home but were just occasionally anxious.
But it was easier to recruit and grow orgs. I can vouch for this across 3 states.
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Did you mean to say Harris?
Nah, Harris just wants to do a Trump-lite herself (just like all the Dems), Stein doesn’t even care about winning
Well she has no chance of winning, so it’d be sort of weird if she did care about that or was talking like it was a real possibility. It’s still good that there are anti-genocide candidates like her and the PSL candidate on the ballot. I don’t think people who vote for them are expecting them to win, they’re signaling their disapproval of the two candidates who might win.
Nah, Harris just wants to do a Trump-lite herself (just like all the Dems), Stein doesn’t even care about winning
Unlike you, trying to climb to the highest possible soapbox to “win” with a vague “everyone mentioned is bad, actually” declaration while holding your own cards close to your chest.
I have a good guess about those cards, though.
At least 150 Greens hold elected office in 20 states across the United States as of July 1, 2024
What grift? Right now they’re barely affording billbord signs.
The Greens are constantly fighting the Democrats frivolous lawsuits to stay on the Ballot. Just because Presented to you Pfizer-Lockheed media doesn’t cover it doesn’t mean the Greens only show up every 4 years. They don’t have corporate money.
They need to gain a certain amount for ballot access for local elections and down ballot candidates.
if you are concerned about Trump winning then maybe the team needs to actually fight for rights when they have power and maybe not bring us to the brink of WW3 and arming a genocide.
The Dems made Trump with the Pied Piper Strategy. They boosted him. So go cry a river to the DNC about grifting and wanting Trump. Then going to woo neocons like Bush and Cheney while purging progressives.
Dems are not “The Left”. They don’t have to listen to ANYTHING on “the left”.
If you vote for Dems then you consent and endorse genocide.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
I voted for Stein, eat me liberal.
Oh hell yeah we doing elders of Zion posting up in here. Tell me how the devious Jew is tricking the American volk
But a vote for Stein is a vote for Harris.
We’ve got a live one here
goatbeard
More like neckbeard
Its a Class 5 Full Roaming Liberal!
Would you say the same for voting for Claudia de la Cruz? Or is she also problematic because a vote for her would be a vote for Trump?
Wow, anti-semitic much?
“I do not want to do four more years of resistance nonsense…”
“I do not want to do four more years of my job…”
Now we just get to wake up to previously unthinkable innovations in war crimes
Unlike the resistance years where you’d wake up to a new funny from Donald and resistancely meme on it for several days past its expiration date
Now we just get to wake up to previously unthinkable innovations in war crimes
Fucking yes, this is the most baffling part. Every day I’m greeted by videos of limbless children and women being executed in the streets under Democratic fucking rule, but its not something that offends them because Trump isn’t doing it.
“Waking up and there’s some shit going on” yeah that’s the news
What a lovely insight to the liberal mind.
Things don’t happen under Dem rule. Anything that does happen, is simply the way the world works, and you are naive to think we can just pick up a magic wand to fix the thing. But not under Republican rule. Those things happen and must be stopped, by voting blue in 2/4 years, and maybe doing like a silent candlelight vigil, as long as it isn’t too loud and doesn’t cause a ruckus.
Genocide for the last year. Abortion lost and nothing but hand wringing like the last 50 years. Trans rights lost, criminalized in many states - Dems just just look the other way. Ukriane war ever eding a nuclear war.
Has she been long under a rock or in a a bubble?
She’s playing the long game. Have to humiliate yourself for the greater good before you have reached the top and finally reveal your power level.
#HistoryWillAbsolveAOC
Courts also saying they’re okay with hearing cases without any standing so they can be legislating from the bench, and that neither branch can impose rules on them.
Guess it’s easier to ignore that when know it doesn’t effect you :/
Why bother fighting hard fights when she can just be cozy under a dem admin and enjoy her treats
Plus easier to fund raise when gop in power. And don’t have to do anything
She’s just a hack like the rest.
Palestinians don’t have to remember every time they wake up. It’s been happening every day through their entire lives. They stopped remembering when they can no longer wake up.
I do wonder what it’s like to wake up with some atrocity that’s impossible to ignore. I can’t imagine what that’s like, it must be so hard to resist against tyranny and oppression, right? Good thing it’s a thing of the past.
I’m sure it’s been said already 30 times in this thread but saying this while the worst extermination event in a century is not only happening but actively funded by our government is actually insane
Because nothing bad happens under biden…like the genocide she has tacitly supported…
Outright admitting that she’d rather go to brunch than organize and lead actual change. Everytime I see this from libs (and their “leftist” groupies defending it) I debate voting for Trump so the libs want to fight. So far I always talk myself back to Claudia, but if I see this while standing in line I just might pull the trigger.
I understand the sentiment of wanting to spite them but they would prefer you vote for Trump because you would be the one person they can use to say that millions of leftists are just accelerationists, and then they can just dismiss everyone to the left of Dick Cheney forever
They say that with or without evidence. They dismiss us as wanting trump to win regardless
of course but let’s not help them by giving them a concrete example
You don’t get it
It doesn’t matter if we do or not because they’re gonna talk their bullshit anyway. Discoursing with them about it doesn’t fucking matter. Playing liberal optics politics games is always a losing battle if you actually care about changing shit
It’s not out of spite, though spite may cloud my judgement.
But my thinking is that they hate and dismiss leftists anyway, things get worse anyway, the only difference is whether they support the power.
Then I remember they’re useless no matter what so I stick to my own principles.
Voting for Trump is like voting for Kamala and saying “But I don’t personally support her, just don’t like the other candidates.” Trump doesn’t care what you intended, you still voted for him. Doing that endorses every part of his platform, regardless of how you personally feel.
Don’t talk yourself into being a contrarian just because democrats are a bunch of ghouls lol
I mean, vote for PSL if you want to, hell even if it’s a write in and they throw it out. You :vote:d but the system is broken and corrupt and doesn’t honor your will. Or just don’t vote at all because voting in a bourgeois democracy is a sham. Those are far better actions than just voting for Trump out of spite.
They don’t even want to fight when the R’s win. They just pretend to. Put on a big show, do a march here or there, some snarky comments, ripping up a piece of paper after a speech, and then VoTe bLuE
A vote for Claudia is, or so I’ve been told, a vote for Trump, so it’s probably much more morally sound to vote for Claudia and you’ll get your fight anyway.
No need to agonize over your vote. It doesn’t really matter, you’re just one comrade. But as a proxy for your thoughts on American politics, I recommend voting PSL as it helps communicate a socialist and anti-genocide message and helps a party of comrades build itself.
I do wonder what did her in.
Was it the fear of losing her seat? Ambitions of power in the party past merely holding a seat?
Money?
Fear of having an ‘accident’ if she kept it up?
Did she realize she enjoyed being a soulless ghoul?
Or was it all just a facade from the start?
I do not know, but what I do know is this:
A few seem to think US Rep Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez worked her way through college as a bartender. That is not the case. She went to college on a John F. Lopez Fellowship, because she was a highly competitive candidate. And she got regular federal student aid and loans. She has a student loan debt of somewhere between $15,000 and $50,000 from going to Boston University. While at BU she was an intern in the immigration issues office for Senator Ted Kennedy.
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Her father was an architect and they were not poor, they were middle class. Sergio Ocasio-Roman was a co-owner and CEO of an architectural practice that operated from a ground-level, 600-square-foot apartment in the 12,000-unit Parkchester condominium complex in the central Bronx.
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Like most recent college grads in NYC in the 2010s (and in many other eras) AOC needed to cobble together a number of sources of income to make ends meet, and in this case also help her mother. You cannot afford your own apartment in NYC on the typical salary of a beginning job with just a BA. She was lucky and had her father’s paid off 725 sq ft apt. Every single person I know who moved to NYC after college had to work many jobs to make ends meet. Among those extra jobs that she had were bartending in Manhattan and waitressing at a taqueria. She says she did not go to grad school at that time, which had been her plan, because of worries about student debt and her mother’s debt.
She also did things that she dreamed of doing as a young woman just out of college. She started a publishing firm, Brook Avenue Press the year after graduation. It focused on children’s literature set in the Bronx—” a social enterprise dedicated to providing relevant educational products to children and parents in urban areas.” She worked for GAGE Strategies, Inc preparing curricula teaching entrepreneurial and self-presentation skills to young college students and graduates in the Bronx. She applied to and was admitted to Sunshine Bronx, a business incubator. She got a job doing educational outreach for the nonprofit National Hispanic Institute. She worked as an organizer for Bernie Sanders campaign in 2016. The next year she started her run for Congress.
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The upshot is, while it makes a fun story to say she “just worked as a bartender” after college and then was in Congress, that is not really the case. She was working at a number of things in the years 2011 to 2017. For about 5 years she worked a bunch of gigs to do things she wanted to try out and to make ends meet and to help her mom avoid foreclosure and paying off student loans. It probably did help her with voters that she had some “real world” job experiences. A large number of the people in her district work in retail or food services. Crowley never worked before being elected.
From the first good quota answer I’ve ever seen
It seems to be relying heavily on her own hagiography, but still gives some insight. She has been very vague about precisely for how long she worked as a bartender in that 5 year period, that somehow manages to contain a good deal of jobs that would normally raise some eyebrows, especially from a sheepdog who started out as an intern for Ted Kennedy.
On the other hand it seems like her entrance into the inner circle of politics was thru the Sanders campaign in '16.
She seems to me to have been a sort of hustling type with an eye for a good opportunity, how best to market herself and what methods to use. It doesn’t seem like she was entirely without scruples nor vice versa (whip up a slice of verse pie)The “started from the bottom” prole picture that is often painted of her, isn’t really true either, and her ideology doesn’t seem to have been much more than expedient opportunism, though with some sense of having a line that she wouldn’t cross and wether or not her living in the Bronx and being the child of an immigrant made her sympathetic to the movements associated to those experiences, or just aware of the fertile and unworked ground… Hard to say, I’m going to say both column B and A.
Now she herself has become the type of person that is vulnerable to an opportunist like she was back then. She is mired in DC, no longer able to see what plays well and what instrument it should be played on. She is firmly removed from the environment that gave her the necessary political insights and she is no longer a hustling up-and-comer hungry for more.
But she’s also firmly entrenched now, so it doesn’t really matter for her anymore.I think she honestly believed she could “work with” the party leadership to move them and the last six years have been her going deeper and deeper into sunk cost bias.
last six years
what?
started in 2019
oh my god
Did she realize she enjoyed being a soulless ghoul?
Or was it all just a facade from the start?
Firmly these two, it was an act from the start, but the perks of DC only further solidified her true character
that last one
“He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”
It was a facade and she has simply adapted her approach from milquetoast gadfly to overt sheepdog for the party.
Nobody made you run for Congress. If you don’t want to do your job, it’s OK to quit.
Reminds me of that story about an old lady telling Marcus Aurelius about her problems, and when the emperor said he didn’t want to hear about her bullshit she replied: Then dont be emperor.
The bourgeois state is a filter with controlled “oppostion.”
It’s cliche at this point but wow the replies from all the hitlerites on X with blue checks…
Shang Tsung built his Soulnado in this reality beneath the Washington Monument
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