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      Nope. the days of pretending are over. Now its the days of gangsters with “fuck you money” ruling the country, and everyone else being told to deal with it. Basically Russia in the 1990s as everything is robbed and pilfered by private interests

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          Well, they control the media, they monitor the tools we use to communicate with each other online. they spy on us. Most of the governments are subservient to them. And the few times someone actually does get through to burn something or someone, they pull out all the stops, and charge them with terrorism.

          seems to me that the “world elites” already won the game.

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      IKR. They are allowed to veto jurors or ti move the whole trial in order to reach a nonbias journey but apparently that doesn’t apply to the judge? Yikes beyond yikes.

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    This should be an automatic forced recusal.

    But it wont be, because the billionaires and CEOs are scared, and don’t care about the appearance of propriety. They want Luigi sacrificed on an altar to instill fear and intimidation into those that might follow his example.

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      Pretty sure Luigi’s lawyer can (and will?) push for a different judge. I know the justice system in the US sucks but if you don’t even give a chance to the rules it’ll never be able to do anything right

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    Remember remember!

    The 4th of December

    A CEO dies all alone;

    On the street he was lain,

    cold, pale and in pain,

    thousands of deaths that he own.

    The decisions he’d struck,

    Layers removed from the slaughter,

    Were a shareholder’s treat,

    Your dead mother or daughter.

    Those investors all wait, on that cold winter morn,

    Still unawares of profit potential they’d mourn,

    Poking at hotel breakfast, bored looks on their face

    As was Brian’s when he denied and delayed at great pace

    Endless growth, deposed, on behalf of us all

    Luigi didn’t do it, we were hiking in Nepal.

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    “I swear, officer, that I didn’t kill that judge. The fact that my search history indicates an interest in 3D printed guns, and I own the works of Karl Marx, AND I was wearing a free “Free Luigi” shirt doesn’t prove anything.”

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    There were 24,849 homicides in 2022.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm

    Almost none of them, if any, likely required a nationwide manhunt.

    Not one of them required an escort of 30 police officers plus a helicopter to the courtroom.

    As far as I can tell, none of them were charged with terrorism.

    And now he’s getting as biased a judge as he could possibly get.

    If we’re going to start charging murderers with terrorism, let’s start with the cops.

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    you people clearly don’t know what you are talking about. “conflict of interest” only happens if it conflicts the interests of billionaires

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    I knew they were going to try him in a kangaroo court, I just didn’t think they’d be this obvious about it.

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      The justice system probably assigned the judge randomly. It’s just finding a judge without wealth is impossible … which in and of itself is a problem.

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        what you expect from a country where judges in the highest court get bribed with “gifts” and “private” trips, while at the same time ignore “international laws” and threaten the most recognized court in the world. What you expect from a government and country that allow a rapist, felon, to be a president while enabling the killing of more than 30 000 kids and women (year old worst estimates).

        Such government will have no regards for it is own citizen and this is just the start of worse to come if people don’t step in.

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    Country wide outage at the corruption involved with the health insurance

    Health insurance industry: we can make it worse

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          It’s a pharmaceutical company. They’re no saints, but it’s disingenuous to compare them to people who take money and provide nothing but a rubber stamp.

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            people who take money and provide nothing but a rubber stamp

            They don’t even do that. Their incentive is to deny coverage. They’re not healthcare insurance companies, they’re healthcare rationing companies. And we pay them.

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            Did everyone forget about scumbag Martin Shkreli who raised medication prices for no reason other than he wanted more money?

            “In September 2015, Shkreli was widely criticized when Turing obtained the manufacturing license for the antiparasitic drug Daraprim and raised its price to insurance companies from $13.50 to $750.00 (USD) per pill.”

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              Martin worked at Retrophin and Turing Pharmaceuticals but mostly he was a hedge fund manager.

              Got nothing to do with Parker or Mangione.

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                Pfizer still got billions from the government and was allowed to patent Covid vaccines that we all fucking paid for.

                Also their dick pills are covered by insurance while meds my wife needs to make it through perimenopause aren’t.

                Pfuck them all. Drug companies are at least half the problem with US healthcare, look at what Perdue and the Sacklers did.

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                  Pfizer being allowed to patent Covid vaccines was a failure to govern, you should never have expected anything less than that from any company but rather you should expect more from your government.

                  Their pills being covered or not has nothing to do with the manufacturer. The entity who covers treatment made the decision.

                  Let’s make a hypothetical where all drug companies are as bad as Purdue, then we would have to get rid of them all. OH WAIT! Whats this? The Covid Vaccine never gets made? Nobody is working on the new H5N1 vaccine? Well, I guess we’ll just have to watch half of us die or be permanently disabled, lol. Organized medicine can’t be allowed, after all. /s

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            The providers (hospitals, clinics, labs, doctor practices), insurers/payers (whether for profit like United, nonprofit like most Blue Cross Blue Shields, or government like Medicare), and pharmaceutical/medical device companies fight each other the whole time to make the most money off of the patients/beneficiaries/taxpayers. Big Pharma runs up prices and persuades doctors to prescribe their treatments, while doctors themselves have a profit motive in running up unnecessary treatments, all while insurers try not to pay for stuff, necessary or not.

            It’s a broken system, but it’s also worth pointing out that the scammers in each camp hate the other camps just as much as the public does. There are hospital execs and pharma execs basically cheering on the anger at insurers, who will turn around and rip off the same victims in a different way.

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              Your final point I think is out of focus. The scammers, which is to say most people at upper level positions in these companies, they just don’t respect human life at all, and they’ll take money wherever they can get it. It’s not a matter of hating people. They don’t respect people to begin with, so they have no need to hate them.

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                The scammers, which is to say most people at upper level positions in these companies, they just don’t respect human life at all, and they’ll take money wherever they can get it.

                I think a lot of the profiteers in this space believe their positions are important and improve health outcomes, and that what’s good for the world is good for the company. Pfizer will tell their investors that inventing a life saving drug (e.g., a COVID vaccine) will be good for health, and that the shareholder therefore deserve to make a hefty profit from it.

                Same with the hospital execs. They’ll pat each other on the back about how much good their hospital does, and see the very expensive billing department as an important function in their war against insurers.

                And actual scammers, who bill for services not actually rendered, order unnecessary procedures, and prescribe the drugs the pretty rep is pushing, tend not to think they’re doing anything wrong or that they’re not hurting people.

                People in each of these groups are saying in hushed tones that the insurance companies had it coming, and kinda sorta cheering the death of the United guy with their caveats (“well I’m not saying murder is OK but I’m not shedding tears,” etc.).

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              Yes and thats because the solution isnt to put different people in charge of the companies. The solution is to Regulate.

              The corruption is because we voters built the system to enable corruption. None of us are better than the executives or vice versa

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                You are right about human nature and the need to regulate, but us voters didn’t build shit. Crony capitalism and regulatory capture built our healthcare “system.”

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                  In 2010 there were 58 Democrats and they held a vote for Single Payer healthcare. Every Republican voted no. One Independent voted yes. It needed 60.

                  So what did voters do after that? Elect LESS DEMOCRATS EVERY ELECTION.

                  If that isn’t choosing this system, I don’t know what is.

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    Interesting, interesting, interesting, interesting.

    I need the bootlickers to show up and tell me it’s just coincidence.

    The whole damn thing is a show. They are terrified. The book they usually play by isn’t working. What will happen? The amount of support Luigi has is astounding. It’s even a topic I tested the waters with at work and these people I work with make a decent living.

    America is waking up. I feel it.

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        That’s literally what it’s taken in the past. It took the fear of communism to really get unionization accepted in the US. In other eras it’s taken the threat of invasion by external powers.

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      I genuinely think that they’ll have a hard time finding an impartial jury… I think that at this point, pretty much anyone who doesn’t live under a rock has heard of him and has an opinion on whether he should be found guilty.

      Regardless of which way you fall on that particular topic, you’re biased, and that would exclude you from serving on the jury.

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        I thought the same thing about the Trump trial, but they legitimately turned over rocks and found the most oblivious Americans living under them. There are evidently tons of people out there living in their own little bubble, completely untethered from the news media or even just casual conversations with strangers and probably have no idea who Luigi is right now. The news might not be able to reach them, but a jury summons from the state can, and the prosecution is going to hunt for these individuals specifically.

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          An unfavorable view is still bias. The defense would reject any juror that shows significant malice towards the plaintiff.

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            The defense can try to reject any juror that shows significant malice. Oftentimes both sides only have so many that they can strike from the potential juror pool unless the judge agrees there is enough bias to sway someone.

            …and since this entire thread started because the judge is married to a previous executive of a healthcare* company, well, good luck Luigi defense.

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        I’ve spoken with friends about this is Denmark, and we all read the news with great pleasure.

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        Correct. And I strongly suspect they are wildly pumping out news about him to narrow the juror pool to people who do live under rocks.

        The other option is that jurors lie about their bias, which opens them up for legal consequences.

        His defense, in any case, has a very difficult task - they need to be able to somehow communicate him being innocent against stacked charges OR paint him light that the rest of us see that leans them towards Jury Nullification.

        My hope is that potential jurors hide their bias, which isn’t easy, but gives him the best chance.

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          The other option is that jurors lie about their bias, which opens them up for legal consequences.

          That’s almost impossible to prove, and almost never prosecuted.

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            There are plenty of nevers and almost nevers with this case already, so it’s not unreasonable to worry that there might be more.

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            They’re trying to use fear to spin a story against this guy. They’re going to use fear when telling them about lying under oath.

            They’re going to use fear the whole way, it’s their only weapon.

            It’s why they are so afraid. A lot of us see through it, and see their real fear.

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          If they can find an “unbiased” jury, then the defense does indeed have a difficult challenge ahead. Even if the prosecution fails with their terrorism charge, they can fall back on murder 2, which is much harder to defend against.

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      Maybe this is a good thing? I’m not super familiar with american justice system but isn’t his case is mostly betting on jury acquitting or using jury nullification or at least taking him to strong settlement? Having a judge like this would definitely sway the jury in Luigi’s favor.