President Donald Trump has signed an executive order designed to prevent transgender athletes from participating in girls' or women’s sports.
  • IninewCrow@lemmy.caEnglish
    19·
    5 hours ago

    I thought this was the small government that wouldn’t be telling people what to do

    • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world
      624·
      7 hours ago

      It’s not that simple, you need to understand the effects that Hormone Replace Therapy has on the body. Men and trans women physically do not have the same type of body and the studies even shows trans women perform worse than cis women in most areas.

      • Transgender women performed worse than cisgender women in tests measuring lower-body strength.

      • Transgender women performed worse than cisgender women in tests measuring lung function.

      • Transgender women had a higher percentage of fat mass, lower fat-free mass, and weaker handgrip strength compared to cisgender men.

      • Transgender women’s bone density was found to be equivalent to that of cisgender women, which is linked to muscle strength.

      • There were no meaningful differences found between the two groups’ hemoglobin profiles. Hemoglobin (Hb) plays a crucial role in athletic performance by facilitating improved oxygen delivery to muscles. Elite endurance athletes may exhibit up to a 40% higher level of Hb compared to untrained individuals. Moreover, heightened levels of Hb typically correlate with enhanced aerobic performance.

      I want you to stop and really think critically about what you are trying to suggest. Do you really think it’s a good idea for trans men who are regularly taking testosterone should be forced to compete against women who aren’t? Do you really think trans women who have lower testosterone levels than cis women (because they are medically surpressing) have some sort of advantage?

      What you’re saying is at odds with observable facts, scientific studies and frankly common sense.

        • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
          82·
          2 hours ago

          Do away with gendered leagues and put it into a multi-tiered system when people compete for positions in different tiers, and potentially have multiple paths so that people can see games of sheer power or precise technique and there’s never a situation like three Pats or the Yankees where money is what buys the best team (all players in a tier would have similar performance).

          • FlexibleToast@lemmy.world
            42·
            2 hours ago

            I’ve been under the impression that the top leagues NFL, MLB, NHL, etc… aren’t necessarily gendered, but women just can’t compete. That’s why they have women only leagues so they have a place they can compete. Am I wrong about this?

            • Suru@mander.xyz
              11·
              2 hours ago

              There are sports where women have reached or surpassed men’s records, for example long-distance endurance races or some accuracy-based competitions. Anything where raw explosive strength or size isn’t the main deciding factor. There are examples in history where women have been banned from participating in specific sports because they have been able to win in competition with men.

              I think, for the leagues you listed, size, strength and speed are often key, and as such most men have an advantage over most women. I don’t doubt there could be exceptions to that rule.

        • njm1314@lemmy.world
          2·
          2 hours ago

          How many trans athletes do you think there are that there’s enough for leagues? Some states have like single digits. It’s ridiculous. The fact that a president is spending time on this is absurd. This is a local school district issue if that.

    • TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zipEnglish
      338·
      7 hours ago

      Sure just kill 12 specific kids across the entire US in the name of “being fair”. Fuck those 12 kids. How DARE they exist.

    • ShepherdPie@midwest.social
      194·
      7 hours ago

      Sure let’s base everything off of kid’s and young adult’s birth genitalia rather than their athletic abilities in athletic competitions. I guess all that noise about “meritocracy” was just bullshit, right? Also the noise about “participation trophies” was bullshit too since we can’t have anyone with any perceived advantages in competitive environments.

      • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world
        284·
        6 hours ago

        my argument there is that no one under 18 should be using hormonal treatment to treat gender dysphoria.

        You do not deserve to stand between psychiatrists, endocrinologists and their patients. The medical community overwhelming disagrees with this assertion and you do not have the right, authority or education to make these sort of limitations.

        People will make up all kinds of mental gymnastics

        Science. We use scientific studies. Your gut reaction and feelings are not more valid than numerous peer reviewed studies.

        • Carnelian@lemmy.world
          172·
          6 hours ago

          Amazing how transphobes never even try to address this. It’s almost as if they’re acting in bad faith

          • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world
            11·
            24 minutes ago

            I do not refute that gender affirming care does lead to better outcomes. I said that no one under 18 should be receiving hormonal treatment to treat gender dysphoria

            Please actually read the links. It very clearly leads to better outcomes for minors.

          • toomanypancakes@lemmy.worldEnglish
            145·
            5 hours ago

            Are you also opposed to people under 18 undergoing chemotherapy for cancer, given the very permanent effects of such a thing? Or is dysphoria the only medical condition you think children should be made to just suffer from?