• MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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    The only people it makes sense to, for Canada becoming a US state, is the people in the USA.

    We have land and resources they need, that we are happy to sell them, year over year.

    Also, just to mention, the dairy thing? Yeah, that’s on dairy products beyond a certain cap. It’s there to encourage the use of Canadian dairy, instead of relying on foreign dairy… You know, so our dairy farmers don’t go broke.

    Looking at the records, that import limit has been hit… Carry the one… Yeah, exactly zero times.

    🖕

    Sincerely,

    • Canada
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        That’s fair. There’s still sensible people in the USA.

        I was a little unclear before, the set of people who think this makes sense is entirely within the set of people in the USA. Which doesn’t and shouldn’t imply that all people in the USA believe that this makes sense.

        I apologize if there was any implication of lumping all Americans into the same pool of stupidity. That’s an insult to you and I am sorry.

        Have a good day neighbor.

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    Thing is, Canada doesn’t want to be apart of the USA. That should tell you a ton about the state of the union. Maybe adopt the advantages the Canadians have over us? Then they might be accepting of joining.

    But Canadians are proud and love their country sovereignty. They will fight to protect it. Why start a war over nothing?

    Fuck Trump and anyone who supports this stupid fuck.

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    The dumbest part of the 51st state nonsense, is Canada is very left leaning (compared to the US, even their right wing would probably be considered on par with Democrats here imo). Making Canada the 51st state would ensure he never wins an election again, but it seems like he’s not too worried about the whole election thing moving forward. I guess when you gut CISA, and probably stole the '24 election you aren’t worried about getting votes…

    Also, the land mass of Canada would have to make it like 10 more states. It’s already 10 provinces. It’s just ridiculous.

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      is Canada is very left leaning

      Idk, this election is very close for a Poilievre win. Pretty sure the Fox News propaganda machine would do its magic in no time.

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    It’s just an old person yelling at his tv (phone).

    There is no weight behind it, even if he is the President. His job is to sign here and smile for the cameras. Nothing more. He doesn’t make policy or have original thoughts, he just signs it.

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    we should increase export taxes on all fronts to the US, until they agree to stop this bullshit 51st state crap etc.

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      I think there should be a ratcheting structure, like an additional 5.1% everytime it’s mentioned publicly by his regime.

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    The more I think about this, the more I unironically think it is a good idea. Canadians hate Trump. Give each province electoral votes and representatives equivalent to those of Wyoming based on population, +2 senators each. Let’s break up California into 67 Wyoming-sized states, while we’re at it.

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    The only thing that makes sense is for Trump and Musk to take a rocket car to Mars.

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        That’s not what is happening. I know it’s upsetting that there are people who believe differently than you do. That’s what this article is about: that there exist people with some truly upsetting opinions, and furthermore, that we know a bit about their demographic make up.

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          The more you platform them the more voice and visibility they get, which ends up drawing support for this 51st nonsense. I don’t care to learn about the ignorant mindset of traitorous pieces of shit. They should stop voting for policies and parties that privilege the rich. But they’re too dumb for even that.

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            I don’t care to learn about the ignorant mindset of traitorous pieces of shit.

            How the fuck else do you hope to… no, never mind. We’re not having a discussion, you’re just making emotional expressions. But I will say that this model of yours that says people do these things because they are stupid or “dumb” might help you cope emotionally, but it prevents you from reaching any genuine insight.

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              But I will say that this model of yours that says people do these things because they are stupid or “dumb” might help you cope emotionally, but it prevents you from reaching any genuine insight.

              I’m not the person you were responding to but I just wanted to make perfectly clear that you are 100% full of shit.

              It doesn’t give anyone ANY measure of “cope” that so many people are fucking stupid. Its terrifying, despairing, and awful. I would rather delusionally believe I could convince them of rational stances, now that would be cope.

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                You should probably… idk, actually read what they said.

                Treating everyone you disagree with like they’re stupid is coping emotionally. Instead of taking the time to, idk discuss things with people they’ve written them off as dumb before they ever speak to them.

                Yes, approaching discourse this way and believing that you can achieve any kind of middle ground is delusional.

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                  I can unequivocally say that anyone entertaining the idea of Canada as a state as a good idea - is a fucking tool. Yeah I’m going to write that off. There’s no middle ground with people too dumb to realize they would be much worse off in that scenario.

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                  Treating everyone you disagree with like they’re stupid is coping emotionally. Instead of taking the time to, idk discuss things with people they’ve written them off as dumb before they ever speak to them.

                  You don’t know fuck all how much I’ve done precisely that. I obsessively debated various political and economic ideologies for like a straight decade of my life in invite-only forums specifically designed for such debate. I changed my own mind over time, and changed other people’s minds. I’ve done it.

                  But I promise you, the people supporting these ideas proposed by the Trump administration are not just stupid, but WILLINGLY IGNORANT for their own selfish purposes. The amount coursing hatred I feel for them burns like the accretion disc of a quasar.

                  They are not people I would bother to debate. They are quite literally just my enemy. Mortal enemies. I don’t want middle ground with them. I want something else.

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            There is a very important difference between “platforming” and “reporting” and you really should to learn what it is before you start policing people.

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              Platforming is perhaps the wrong term, maybe “selective reporting” and “cherry picking” fits better.

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      I recently met two Albertans out here in South Korea at a bar. They were on the other side of the bar from me, and when they walked past, I greeted them as an Ontarian and offered to shake their hands. They both declined the handshake and proudly announced, “We’re not on the same team.”

      That was a few weeks ago. I’m still disturbed by it. I knew Albertans had a reputation because of the politicking there. But I hadn’t realized it would be so blatant. That same night, two South Africans happily asked me my thoughts on Trump, and I was perhaps too honest in my first statement, and they grew upset with me and insisted he was good for Canadians and South Africans, both.

      I left the bar not long after. Haven’t seen those four come back, so there is a bright side to the story, at least.

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        They refused to shake your hand because you are from Ontario? What the heck… they need mental health care.

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        Lol they should fucking stay in South Korea. They are definately in the minority, it’s a larger minority then most of Canadas opinion but goddamn they are still a minority. Should have told them to never fucking come back

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          No, I don’t want them here, haha. This is my future home, I don’t need that nonsense here! It’s also my friend’s bar, so I don’t particularly want to ruin business for him. But I did talk with him about it later.

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    ADDITIONAL 25% Tariff, to 50%, on all STEEL and ALUMINUM COMING INTO THE UNITED STATES FROM CANADA,

    My company:

    Has two shops 1 in Canada and 1 in the US; US shop now solely handles all American related jobs while Canada handles any job globally, besides the US.

    Real smart play here ol trump

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      “Let’s kill all the jobs now for a few new kinds of jobs that probably won’t come to fruition” -Trump, American genius.

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      Conservative Americans in shambles reading this as they find out that we do Infact own guns in Canada and are proud to own them. We just don’t get all fucking pussy about not being able to own fully automatic ones with 50 round magazines lol.

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        Liberal American here, for a long time conservatives here have miscalculated how well armed many of us are. The anti-gun crowd (not to be confused with gun control) are just the vocal minority on the issue, giving the impression that liberals hate guns. My gun safe begs to differ, and I own more guns than any conservative I know.

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      Say it louder; get disqualified from gun ownership. You’re not allowed to own guns because you think one day you might shoot people with them.