I installed the official Reddit app and went on it to see what the old place was looking like now. My inbox was filled with spam. The “home feed” shows subs I never subscribed to. There are so many ads. Between the ads and the the extra subs in the feed, it’s hard to just scroll. I also noted a lot of spam in some of the subs. Maybe they are subs with no mods? I’m not sure what’s up with that.
It does suck I’m presently suspended at the moment for abusing the report feature by reporting a Nazi supporting targeting Georgia grand jurors. Not only do they frequently not remove Nazis you can get suspended for reporting Nazis. I’m done with reddit for good. It’s a cesspool like Twitter.
Spez is a Nazi. Welcome to the resistance
I hadn’t heard of that idea as yet. He’s not generally well liked, given his position and personal role and the enshittification process of Reddit and generally entitled attitude possessed of many similarly wealthy people. I mean put more simply he certainly seems to be a dick, but I hadn’t heard he was in some way associated with Nazism. What did he do?
He is a Trump supporter at the very least.
Of course he is not associated with nazism, the dude above is stupid af, throwing labels of nazism just for fun.
Sir, this is the Internet and Godwin’s rule is law.
He’s not a nazi they’re just throwing shade
I mean, reddit kept t_d around for years after they helped organize a nazi rally.
That sounds much more like corporate interests and a related lack of will to get embroiled in moderation than evidence of ideological preference.
The t_d folks liked to go to Reddit to organise their nazi rallies and that basically just meant more traffic for Reddit which on a crude level is generally good from Reddit’s perspective. It can be bad when it scares advertisers or when it drives away a larger amount of traffic from people put off by an apparently Nazi bent to the website they came to for killing time, compared to what they gained from a small group of freaks.
It’s one subcommunity of a very large forum website that from afar just looks like another, additional contingent of users. If they start to hear some grumblings about it being a bit fucked up to allow this kind of community they could be tempted to intervene but that would mean taking active moderation steps which companies like Reddit have mostly not seen as their job or priority, especially Reddit which gets other people to do it for them for free, and then on top of that there’s some degree of risk that doing so would damage the brand when it causes a stink and people start screaming censorship.
Eventually it becomes worth acting to get rid of something like this when enough stink is raised that news of the existence of the community and the types of discussions going on there goes mainstream and starts to spook advertisers and an actually large number of mainstream users.
This to me looks far more like a deeply held and passionate belief in the idea of “more money, and not less money” than for Nazism. I’m sure they’d just as soon embrace Nazism if the winds shifted and they thought on balance it’d work out more profitable to keep the right wing extremists happy than the rest of society, but at least right now it’s pretty much not the case so they’re forced to act despite a cynical reluctance wholly unrelated to ethos.
So they’re not necessarily nazis, but they were willing to platform nazis because it made them money?
I’m not sure “collaborating with nazis for profit” is a moral win here.
It isn’t. Just a different thing.
LOL don’t think about it too hard. Nazi = “people I don’t like”. AKA Godwin’s law.
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I think jumping straight to calling Spez a Nazi is ridiculous.
On the other hand, Reddit has repeatedly aggressively looked the other way when it came to communities that blatantly violated the rules such as The Donald, jailbait, etc, while cracking down on and banning far milder users and communities.
I feel the whole point of this and Twitters bullshit was to get the lefties off of the last major social media left so everything can be Fox book ahead of the elections.
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You’re doing God’s work. Never stop reporting fascists wherever you see them.
I reported extremely obvious spam repost bots and also got a permaban for “abusing reports”. Fuck em, they want rhe garbage content to overrun their site, they’re gonna get it.
Dude the same thing happened to me when I got in an argument with a mod! only our was about Muslim crimes that happened and me saying they were bad.(the one where the teachers was accused of showing Muhammad but did no such thing and was killed) yeah i said thay was bad! . The mods, they said I was committing islamaphobia?! Then he reported me for harassment for arguing with him and boom… banned… Fuck reddit a d the mods!!
Yeah its not going to be surprising if a few of their employees are nazis
The “home feed” shows subs I never subscribed to.
Facebook started doing this awhile ago too and made the site completely unusable for its original purpose of keeping up with friends and family. There is zero reason to browse Facebook anymore.
They say that Facebook spies on us and knows everything about us, but all I see on my feed is memes. I don’t like them. Here on Lemmy I block every meme community I see!
It shows me tons of UFC stuff. I’m not even slightly interested in UFC. I’ve blocked dozens of different groups, but there’s a thousand more to take their place. It also shows me lots of groups about soccer. I can’t say that I’ve ever even watched one soccer game in my entire life. I used to visit Facebook to see how my long distance friends and family were doing. Now I don’t visit Facebook at all, since I can’t do that anymore.
So, I’m not trying to be snarky at all, just genuinely curious, as I’ve seen several people on Lemmy brag about how much they hate memes… Like, why? Do you not enjoy humor, or just not find them funny or something? It’s a bit like someone saying they hate dogs to me. I honestly don’t get it.
I didn’t say that I hate them. I said that I don’t like them. Let’s avoid using these words interchangeably.
The issue with these communities is that they recycle the same old material. You mostly see reposts and blatantly bad jokes. Sometimes I feel as though people feel the need to create a meme, but they don’t have any idea what it should be about. It’s like trying to write a book or song for the sake of writing one. Nothing good comes out of it without a creative idea.
When a new template becomes popular, people recreate old jokes with it, because even templates are not original anymore. There’s even a meme about this from Scooby-Doo, where the guy reveals that the monster (new template) is actually some guy they already knew (old template).
Mostly, such communities pollute the feed with unoriginal and unfunny content that doesn’t bring any value to me.
Okay, I appreciate such a considered response. I do agree it gets old seeing the same exact post over and over. Reddit was getting really bad with that. Of course there’s always the question of why some people find something funny and others don’t too.
For me though, setting that aside, I just find the variations on a meme can be really fascinating. Then you have memes referring to other memes or imitating them, sort of like you described. Memes that descend into abstraction so as to become practically incomprehensible… I’ve had to research a few just to understand whay they were even talking about. I think at its best memeing is like some kind of collective conceptual art collaboration. Or like graffiti or music sampling. So interesting.
I felt that way as a teenager but now as an adult it’s like a switch flipped and I find them insufferable. Memes within niche communities are still good though.
Yeah, it seems like all the answers I get boil down to: people don’t like them because they just don’t like them. Which is perfectly fair, I’m not sure why I was expecting a more nuanced response from anyone. It’s sort of like how some people like chocolate and others don’t. Who can say why really? It is interesting though that Lemmy seems to have a disproportionate share of vocal meme detractors.
We do like humour. So called “memes” (that is, image macros, memes are an entirely different thing, of which image macros are merely a particularly malignant subset)… OK, I’ll grant you, maybe they’re not entirely the opposite of humour, maybe they’re just what’s left when you remove all the humour and just leave a dry mummified shell of what might have once been a very poor attempt at a bad joke… but still, if they’re poorly made (as is the case 99% of the time), they’re noise, they’re spam, and if they have any value whatsoever it’s entirely negative… and if they’re “well” made… then they’re just plain old political propaganda (but without the artistic value that good propaganda posters had), so noise, spam, and definitely of negative value to society.
I don’t think they’re entirely negative. Memes can be very creative. Nor are they all political. That’s a weird argument to me. As far as humor, I think we’re just demonstrating how subjective it is. I find plenty of memes very funny. Yeah, can’t say I agree with really anything you said there, at least not as a blanket statement.
It stops being funny after the 500th time. A lot of them are lolsorandumb zoomer humor. So its completely incoherrent or contains some sort of inside joke.
I’ve hated them since it got popular on 4chan and 9gag back in the day. People were just spouting memes and I could tell they lacked intelligence because of it.
I love humor. I love comedies and stand up comedy.
Memes aren’t really humor. They’re rhetoric that gets repetitive.
Interesting to hear your experience. It took me 3.5 months to fully remove myself from Reddit. (March to July):
- I started just poking around Lemmy while using Reddit
- to occasional commenting and posting on Lemmy
- to using them about equal time
- then making a final few posts and comments in the protest weeks and helping people migrate
- then I was only upvoting
- then I made a final goodbye post on my Reddit page
- then I stopped voting but still looking around Reddit and the playplace.
- then when that was over, I uninstalled my favourite RedReader app and stopped using it altogether
I’m not one who likes to go cold turkey, but when once I commit to boycotting something I stick to it until my condition is met. In those final days I came across many Reddit users who were like “if you hate Reddit that much why are you still using iiiiiit?”, that was annoying but that’s behind me now and there is no condition for me to go back to it.
In my case I still use the Stealth App. It doesn’t allow to login, nor vote or comment, but you can still follow the subreddits you want to. No ads, no usage of the API.
How do I use it? I don’t want to give Reddit clicks but some subs never migrated over
Install the app, optionally change the Reddit source in the options (soon you’ll be able to use a teddit proxy service to further obfuscate your profile, but for now I use the Web Scraping option), and enable some Privacy Enhancers, and you are good to go. To subscribe, search for a subreddit, open it, swipe left and click on “subscribe”.
Looks like Stealth isn’t supported soon
Looks like Stealth isn’t supported soon
Maybe you can tell me. Does Lemmy have NSFW content?
Edit: Easily answered that question for myself
There are at least two instances specifically dedicated to it. I currently prefer pornlemmy.com to lemmy.nsfw. We need some more niche content to make it’s way onto the platform, but it’s a good start.
I keep seeing people say they want more “niche” content when it comes to porn on here but are people just looking for kinks or what?
I saw all kinds of nasty kink stuff when I was browsing pornlemmy.
For me personally, I’m a woman who is mostly attracted to other women, but I’m kinky af. Reddit has/had lesbian specific versions of a lot of NSFW subs. Having occasional lesbian content in niche communities isn’t the same. There are other very specific things that are personal to me, but needing more lesbian content would be the biggest category for me easily.
That makes total sense.
I think what people want is very specific, well curated, and active communities about uncommon interests. Things like a whole community that is just 30-35year old redheads wearing cat ears and cleaning their shower in yellow striped thigh highs or something equally as weird and specific.
Like i remember stumbling across a community on reddit that was all about sewing felt vaginas/butts into stuffed animals so people could take their relationship with their favorite plushie to the next level. The community was shockingly active and full of discussion.
Things like that take time and lots of active users to become a thing. Lemmy isnt quite there yet. Same with other kinds of niche interests that havent quite set up shop here yet (for example there are cannabis communities, but nothing specifically for bonsai cannabis)
Like i remember stumbling across a community on reddit that was all about sewing felt vaginas/butts into stuffed animals so people could take their relationship with their favorite plushie to the next level. The community was shockingly active and full of discussion.
lol I am so not surprised something like that was active but I guess I have always been on the darkest corners of the internet.
bonsai cannabis?? Please tell me more about that.
Lol it was an interesting peak into the depravity of the human psyche 😅
And cannabonsai is super fun! You prune the cannabis kind of like a traditional bonsai tree. Its fun because you can get a complete look in a few months compaired to the years that traditional bonsai takes. It also works really well as a way to keep a graphed mother plant with multiple strains.
I was gonna share a pic of my plant but I cant figure out how to add pictures in my comments that actually show up… so heres a link to some pics :)
Thanks for the link! I was also looking it up. It sounds really cool and I love that you can achieve the effect in just a few months.
If you have desktop you can insert images on lemmy - its been working for me so far.
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I keep my account up because I’m in subs that have technical help for certain hardware and software and haven’t migrated anywhere. I have lots of answers to issues that can be very helpful when searching. It sucks that Spez has forced so many people to delete important help like that.
I use Infinity that I downloaded from F-Droid and it still works without me inputting any API keys or paying for a subscription. Did it steal my key or something 💀
FYI RedReader has planned Lemmy support as of a couple months ago; no roadmap or time frame but it should be in the works.
I just got permabanned for calling Clarence Thomas a cunt because “the c word is sexist hate speech.” You have got to be fucking kidding me, reddit has become such a piece of shit I’m done with it for good.
meanwhile they haven’t banned clarence thomas for being an actual cunt.
That’s been a standard for banning in r/politics for quite some time. “Cunt” is the mod banhammer trigger word there. Clearly they have never heard of Australia.
Clearly they have never heard of Australia.
They don’t have politics in Australia, silly. /s
r/Australia is notoriously easy to get a permanent ban for completely arbitrary reasons. the mods there are reddit neckbeard stereotypes on steroids
Politics? That’s a 'murican tradition. That’s why r/politics only allows to discuss 'Murica, because there are no politics anywhere else. What? Did c/politics say something?
Yes I was banned there for saying I wouldn’t be sad if trump dies in prison or something like that, banned for advocating death lol
I was permabanned for harassment for insulting spez during the 3p shit lol
What a bunch of fucking losers I can’t wait for their IPO to go down in flames, hopefully aided by some organization investigating and reporting the fact that like 30% of the website is karmafarming bots and chinese scam shills.
Haha no way I got banned for calling RBG a cunt for not retiring when she had the chance!
Long before the big fiasco I had already taken up the habit of nuking my own Reddit account after ~6 months or ~20K karma, whichever came first. I had noticed that an attachment to such accounts creates inner turmoil. Like when you get unfairly banned by some powertripping mod. I simply didn’t like the fact that someone else had any kind of emotional power over me, no matter how slight, so I taught myself to kill my accounts without attachment.
So when the shit hit the fan before summer it was trivial to just delete my latest account and not make a new one. Been a happy Lemming ever since, not planning on going back. Sometimes the urge to lurk creeps in but so far I’ve been perfectly able to ignore it.
I honestly feel happier than before. I already don’t use any news apps and limit my exposure to actuality, and Reddit was pretty much the last “toxic” thing to hammer into my mind 24/7.
I’d say I miss it, but I really don’t. The hours of doomscrolling I spent on there were not only wasted, but 100% counterproductive to my happiness as a human being.
I spent over a full year /played in Wow loooong ago, and that time at least wasn’t wasted because I enjoyed most of it. Can’t say the same for Reddit.
I keep my account up because I’m in subs that have technical help for certain hardware and software. I have lots of answers to issues that can be very helpful when searching. It sucks that Spez has forced so many people to delete important help like that.
Export them and be good.
Export them where? I have tens of thousands of posts and comments. Idk how to easily find the ones that would be relvant and then idk where I would put them that they would turn up in a search. Right now if you search for an issue that I have a resolution for, it will come up with the Reddit post or reply that I’ve made. I don’t know what I would do with them if I exported them so that people could find them.
Thanks for that, the only reason I go to reddit anymore is because it pops in my search results, usually when I’m trying to solve a tech problem.
I relate to this, but my issue when they banned my account with over 90k karma and four years of engagement, they banned me and any new account got suspended immediately… even after trying the VPN way… So when I try to delete the accounts… Reddit won’t let me delete them always says sorry you can’t do that right now try again later… but because it’s banned/permanently suspended… I can’t see anything on the profile either. I am beyond done with Reddit
I feel that. Last year I had a 12 year account with about 140k karma permabanned for linking to rarbg on a TV series sub. My mistake but there was no warning. After that, every account I tried making got nuked for ban circumventing within a week of creating it, which made it impossible to use reddit for things like BST communities, which was pretty much all my activity was anyway
I just got permabanned for saying “cunt” because it’s sexist hate speech… dick is allowed but cunt isn’t? I think the neckbeard mods are just addicted to brandishing their internet authority because they’re such losers in real life.
Relevant username. Nobody was more thin skinned than R*ddit mods
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Ads every few posts. Ads inside comments. Ads ads ads.
as a former sync for reddit user, we were living in a delusion in the end. We fixed it for ourselves but the tides of change were inevitable
Personally I still use Reddit for niche things (like arguing with people about whatever video game I’m playing at the time) But fediverse here for generic scrolling
Yeah there are some things I really want to do like check in on a thread about a show from 5 years ago etc. But I can’t bring myself to do it. Fuck spez
Stealth is a great and beautiful app that allows you to subscribe ad-free with no account (read only).
Cool do you have a link?
It’s on FDroid
Not to mention the official reddit app is janky as hell. So many smooth scrolling 3rd party apps for lemmy.
Memmy user poking my head up.
They’ve been pushing that fucking app for ten years now, and have tried almost everything to get people to use it. Everything except for spending any time making it good. It shows the rot at the core of Reddit leadership that they’d rather get into a huge fight with their community, and break their mobile site, than just build a decent app.
I poked my head in yesterday and was scared away pretty quickly by the overwhelming shitty attitudes. I got the feeling that right-wingers are taking over.
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Yeah we arent Reddit here, but please, let it here be more civilized. Thank you!
Rejection of science, rejection of medicine
Alright buddy, let’s see your degree. Surely your distinctly right wing views have nothing to do with the bans you’re catching. It must just be because you have an extensive background in gender studies and those fools can’t handle that.
There’s no way that people don’t want you around because you’re claiming science supports a bigoted view you’re spreading, right?
I think you mixed up your left and rights, bud.
Hold out your hands with the backs facing you, have your thumb at a 90° angle to your index finger. The hand that forms a capital “L” is the left hand.
For anyone not sure about right and left, left is almost always the right way to move.
I do this a lot.
Rejection of science.
The science and psychology communities, the people who actually study such things, are pro-trans rights.
Rejection of medicine.
Out of curiosity: what is your stance on the COVID vaccine?
oh we know what they think
Boooo go away
I deleted my account as part of the Great Reddit Exodus of 2023 but have periodically visited the site since without an account.
Many of the posts I see now seem really sensationalist and almost like they were created by bots. Of course, maybe Reddit was always that way and it just some time being away for me to realize that.
Standard “wHy Do YoU cArE?” Post, ignoring this is the Reddit community.
But in all seriousness, not surprised. It’s likely only gonna get worse until it dies as a platform.
The “home feed” shows subs I never subscribed to
I made a new account and was immediately bombarded with posts from subs on the account I deleted months ago, suggesting them because Reddit knew I visited them in the past.
No, that’s not creepy at all. /s
Clear cookies?
They check via IP as well, and possibly also browser fingerprints.
IP
If your using home fiber connection (residential), then your IP address is not permanent or static, at least for me (I’m from the Philippines anyway).
Browser fingerprints
Use Firefox Browser and install uBlock Origin, then. Clear cookies whenever you like.
Honestly, I’ve never visited Reddit since the API BS.
It doesn’t matter that you IP is periodically changed by your ISP. They will always be from sort of the same ranges, as IPs are regionally distributed. That’s what a digital fingerprint is for. The mix of browser configuration, screen size, OS version, IP, and specially if there are tracking markers (referral from other websites when you click on a link directed to reddit). Also, there are tracking cookies, you might delete the reddit cookies but there are still other tracking sites cookies that reddit can use to identify you.
Thanks for taking the hit, soldier. I haven’t checked it since June 1, and was curious.
The day I opened rif and it didn’t load was the day I quit reddit. Never went back. Lemmy isn’t as cozy as reddit was for me after a decade, but I just had to deal with the fact those days are over.
I scroll here for short 5-10 min distractions but nothing more, all the comunities and all the porn is a bit confusing. I spent the first couple weeks blocking them but there are too many combinations of seggsy words to get them all.
You should delete your account at r/redditseppuku
I ran shreddit to delete rest of my comments off the GDPR files that power delete suite missed. And it’s really fun seeing everything be deleted as the script is run.
They’re your comments and I understand the sentiment, but I do wish people didn’t delete their Reddit comments. Preserving what’s there will help people who look in the future - we just don’t have to add to it, and can (and should) devote our energies elsewhere.
Preserving but just adding a line after every comment directing people to Lemmy or wherever the user went would be much better.
That kind of built up history is exactly what keeps Reddit relevant though. It’s been the go-to place for so long that it stays just because it is where all the content is. And now with LLM’s any content you leave is going to get turned into a chatGPT bot to generate fake engagement for their ad numbers.
To be fair, LLMs are still going to be able to scrape your content, and I’d say even more so since individual instance owners do not have big lawyer teams and dedicated server maintaining teams like in Reddit to protect their content from being scraped. My personal take is to just keep commenting and posting on the Fediverse and make this a better place over time, and just use adblockers whenever you need Reddit to find information.
No, but there is no monetary gain to scrape and repost on Lemmy. Reddit makes money when they do that, which means they’ll encourage it more.
The built up history gives Reddit momentum, but it’s not like when you Google a solution to some tech issue and find a Reddit post from 2017 that solves it, that’s materially contributing to Spez’s IPO-chasing metrics. No, that’s all about engagement, and active current users.
When you delete your history, you’re just reducing the total information available to random people who are looking for it. It may feel good lighting it on fire but that’s about it.
If we stop using it, it’s just a historical record. Stopping using it is enough.
Ar least archive it, so archive org gets the engegemant instead of reddit.com
I will never understand the desire to destroy human knowledge out of spite.
It’s not about spite. It’s about not wanting your past work and creativity to continue to help an individual and a company who are bad for society, and who are destroying a platform many people loved.
I assume you aren’t the kind of person who ever commented about DIY or code stuff then? If you were, hundreds of people would miss out on solutions to problems. Meanwhile, reddit and spez don’t lose a damn thing, except maybe a few hundredths of a cent here and there. If you’ve ever posted anything useful to reddit, you would be hurting people who are trying to use the Internet to help them in exchange for the idea of “getting at” some random CEO who doesn’t care.
On the other hand, if you never posted anything useful to anyone, carry on.
if you’ve never posted anything useful to anyone
First of all, I’ve put painstaking effort into a lot of contributions. It hurts to delete them. Second of all, I don’t need to be a contributor to be impacted by people deleting valuable comments, but I still support the deletion.
Reddit had become the “go-to” place for finding trustworthy user reviews, and it’s been shoring up weaknesses in Google’s search engine for a few years now. They don’t deserve the reputation of being that platform because they regularly abuse and alienate good-faith contributors, and the CEO of the company has been caught multiple times in lies and completely unprofessional and untrustworthy behavior.
Fortunately, there are backups of Reddit and archive systems. It’s time for users who care about contributing to bring their value elsewhere, where we can build new ecosystems of user-powered value and knowledge sharing.
r/redditseppuku
it is time. a month away from my reddit account has proven I don’t have any desire to return. Damn Spez, way to shoot yourself in the face you fucking bellend.
Don’t know what you mean. I don’t have hard statistics but it seems pretty apparent that Reddit weathered the storm well, just as he said they would.
Sure, some users got very angry with Spez and Reddit but ultimately didn’t go anywhere. They continue to complain about Reddit on Reddit.
Sure, some users left entirely but I’m certain many many more chose to subject themselves to the data-mining, ads, and pop-up notifications in the official app, thereby continuing to contribute to increasing Reddit’s value.
If Twitter has taught us anything, it’s that once you’ve built a sufficient userbase, there’s almost nothing they won’t tolerate.
I don’t have hard statistics but it seems pretty apparent that Reddit weathered the storm well, just as he said they would.
did I say I had hard statistics saying Reddit was going down?
No, no I didn’t, but you imagined that and just ran with a few paragraphs retorting it lol.
Damn Spez, way to shoot yourself in the face you fucking bellend.
he’s lost thousands of mods. you know, the idiots (like me) who did exceptional amounts of free labor, keeping the place clean and fun. you can already see the effect in multiple subs, the spammers are back in force.
that’s how he’s shot himself in the face. They’re never going to go back after this shit, and now that lemmy exists, people are moving on to the better alternative.
LOL, oh yeah, Twitter’s doing great. How’s that advertising working for 'em?
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/technology/twitter-ad-sales-musk.html
Please, don’t reply to something you’re making up in your head in response.
bwahahahaha all the new rising posts on reddit are crypto scams. https://lemm.ee/post/6038434
that’s working out great for spezzo
did I say I had hard statistics saying Reddit was going down?
…did I say you did?
No, no I didn’t, but you imagined that
Please, don’t reply to something you’re making up in your head in response.
Pot meet kettle.
oh yeah, Twitter’s doing great. How’s that advertising working for 'em?
What does advertising have to do with the number of people on the platform?
silly me, I didn’t know how accurate your username was. gonna block this idiotic discourse because you either can’t or won’t read, or are just shitposting.
More like blocking me because of what a giant buffoon you’ve made of yourself
I keep my account up because I’m in subs that have technical help for certain hardware and software and haven’t migrated anywhere. I have lots of answers to issues that can be very helpful when searching. It sucks that Spez has forced so many people to delete important help like that.
