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      TBH I dont really like Homeoffice. Im not a social person and Homeoffice would make it even worse. I dont actually get why people love to stay home all week. It just feels wrong to me.

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          Ill never understand anything other than this. Like im not an asshole to my coworkers, I still talk to them from time to time, but ultimately im at work to make the green paper, I just want to do my thing and leave that hell.

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            Right, I’m nice to them. I don’t refuse to talk to them at all, but I’m just not there to socialize. I’m not interested in talking about my kid or sports or movies or anything like that with people at work. You have to walk on eggshells anyway in case you say something that offends someone’s political or social sensibilities. And I live in Indiana, which means I can’t say the things I want to say when some asshole Republican in the office doesn’t care about work etiquette. So I just keep my earbuds in.

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              I guess that’s just where people are different, I go to work, to work and socialize. But I do still love my 2 days of wfh. I’m from EU tho

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          Yup. You can make friends at work but the ability to make friends should be beyond people who you are forced to interact with for survival.

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          Abso fucking lutely.

          If you are not social, that means you are disincentivized to practice social interaction. That means you have a hard time socializing to not feel lonely when you do feel so.

          I have always felt lonely as hell. And since I was not fucking stepping out to keep relationships alive and practice human interaction, I dug myself deeper into this hole. Now I cant even fucking make friends.

          I would love to stay home and chill out. But I know Im wasting away in this virgin hell every single day.

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            I mean I am not social either, but I wouldn’t go back to the office just because I lack social interaction I would rather take up some hobbies that take me among people.

            Also a huge benefit for me is that the time I would spend commuting I spend walking my dog instead.

            not to mention I get up when I get up, absolute freedom.

            the downside is lack of separation between work and home since I can technically work anytime I want.

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            There are many ways to socialize beyond work. I have a few work friends but I have many more friends with deeper connections whom I chose to stay in touch with outside of work.

            Work friends will always have an essence of “if I didn’t have to interact with you every day I probably wouldn’t seek you out on my own” and many of them are very aware of it.

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        You’re entitled to want to work from the office. I don’t think anyone in the “I want to work from home” camp has ever said or implied that WFH should be the only option.

        The key argument from the WFH people is that, you should have the choice to work from wherever works best for you. No questions asked.

        I know plenty of people who want to be in office all day, and they believe that helps them (I have no idea if it does or not and I have no data to say either way). I respect that choice. You should be able to work from the office if you wish.

        The WFH advocates just want it to be a personal choice whether you work from an office or from home. It shouldn’t be something that everyone is forced to do, one way or the other.

        For me, the cost savings alone from my commute, both financially, and in terms of time, are huge when working from home. The pandemic demonstrated that working from home is 100% viable. Many companies continued to function quite well after the initial adjustment to the remote working style. Most even saw an increase in performance from workers overall.

        WFH works. No matter what anyone says, the data is there.

        Which shouldn’t imply that it should be the only option. IMO, having mandatory return to office, or hybrid being the only available “work from home” (which it isn’t really WFH)… isn’t acceptable to me; but that’s all that many workplaces are offering.

        I understand that you don’t like it, and you don’t want it, and you don’t understand why people do. That’s fine. Everyone’s reason for wanting work from home is different and I won’t imply that everyone wants it for the same reasons. So that’s a more individual issue than anything… but not even having the option? That not good.

        Please support people right to choose where they get their job done.

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            I dont actually get why people love to stay home all week. It just feels wrong to me.

            it is bad faith arguing their opinion at everyone else’s opinion.

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        Well for the social aspect I understand people not wanting. Or if their home there is noises or other people distracting or interrupting.

        But for the rest unless you need something specific that is only available there, home is much better.

        More time for you not wasted commuting.

        Easier to adapt the schedule to your needs, including personal errands on dead time or simply moving the schedule as needed as long as you work same time and you can connect the meetings or whatever at the right time all is fine.

        You can save money on food/drinks and even eat food just cooked if times allow it.

        If you have to be on call on certain weird hours you already have everything at home.

        Less stressed out if you are those that hate people looking while you work.

        Less distractions by other people just passing by if you live alone or nobody bothers you in your room/office.

        And other stuff probably.

        Of course there are jobs this is not possible or have security concerns. Or people that have small places / noisy places / other stuff or people bothering them at home. Then yeah an office could be better.

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        You get downvoted a lot, but I understand you, I think.

        I don’t have the need to see people, and it feels extremely comfortable to just stay home and save the time it takes to and from the office (and the food is cheaper around home).

        But days I am in the office or at company events are also very satisfying and I basically overcompensate by talking to people all day. It completely drains my energy and I don’t need any other interaction in the evening. Still I like it. So I somewhat miss the in-office work, but also not.

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        If staying at home is what is keeping you from being social and you approach connection to people as a study to be social then you are doing social wrong. Deeply wrong.

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        One of the final fuck yous from Boomers will be the watering down, delaying or collapse of social security benefits because they draw from it but elect reps that don’t want to fund it and instead prefer military industrial spending. 70? 75? 80?

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    Driving sucks. If you can, help advocate for alternatives and better planning!

    No matter where people live in cities, everyone should have options for walking, biking, or taking public transportation in safe, accessible, and reliable ways to get around.

    Zoning needs to change to allow more density and mixed use, bringing people closer to their needs.

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      Such a crazy idea. If you were able to afford to live near where you worked that would be less stress. More stress helps keep you complacent and under managements thumb. They have to pay you just enough to make sure you can never jump off the hamster wheel.

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      I feel this weight every day. I drive a few times a week and frequently… its less safe than I’d wish for. I feel stuck with this shit location, no valid third places for me or my type of person. I might be moving next year but it’s also not up to me.

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      Burn out is the end result of the current system of employment for pretty much all “white-collar” jobs.

      “Blue collar” jobs have an end too, but usually when their bodies get too old/busted up to do the work.

      We’re all in this hell together.

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    I’ll use this meme to echo other comments: thank you for your contribution to this community, you brighten our days with your silly memes.

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    Unless you work at like, Goldman Sachs, this is basically never the case unless you want it to be.

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      Huh? I work 12 hour shifts, there’s not much time to do anything but eat and sleep once you factor in the commute.

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    How many hours you working? Even with an 8 hour shift I have a good 4-5 hours to fuck around. Course, on weekdays I almost never bother with actual cooking, saves a lot of time

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      Assuming I can sleep 8 hours (to prevent sleep deprivation and all the negatives that go with that), my day will be, wake up, maybe an hour to orient myself (get coffee, check the news or whatever), shower, and get changed, drive an hour to work. By the time I’m at work, I’ve been up for ~3 hours, where I’ve only gotten 1 of those hours to do what I want. One hour was to prepare for work, another was driving to work… then I’m working for 8 hours. I drive an hour home. Work has now consumed 11 hours of the day. Of the 13 hours I have left, 8 will be spent asleep. I have five hours. I need to spend at least an hour, probably two, just serving my biological needs in order to survive, and to clean up… clearly stated: I need to eat.

      So after sleeping, waking up, going to work, working, coming home, eating, and cleaning up after eating, and doing some minor chores, I have… 3 hours left to do whatever I want before I must go back to sleep so I can be rested for the next greulling day of this shit.

      On top of that, I’m sleeping 8 hours a night so I can be my best at work, so that’s time I spent, not because I really wanted 8 hours of sleep, but because I had to… for work. So with that in mind, I’m giving work ~19 hours of my life per day and I’m being paid for 8. Then, on top of all of that, work doesn’t want to pay me a fair wage for the hours they do pay me. What kind of bullshit is this?

      So I get to slave away at this for the next 20-30 years, until my brain starts to degrade and my body can’t keep up anymore, so I can spend the last 10-30 years of my life, doing whatever I want in “retirement” on a extreme budget (aka “fixed income”) only to see prices keep rising until I can’t afford to live anymore…

      And that’s my reward? For being such a productive member of society? A handful of years of freedom to do as I wish, when I’m old and grey, on a limited budget, full of aches and pains?

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        Having an hour commute sucks balls. Even before partial work from home started during covid, my own commute was only 25 minutes one way

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      My fuck around time at work is far less pleasant than my fuck around time not at work. My fuck around time at work is “do what I can within what is allowed by my work to kill time until I have something to do or can get the hell out of here.”

      If I could watch TV shows and movies or even just YouTube in between work stuff, I’d pause it whenever I had to do work, then maybe.

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      I work 12 hours. With commute, 13-14. It sucks.

      I get 3 day weekends though, and the overtime is nice.

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    Me, driving to a job that I love working for a company that gives its employees partial ownership plus benefits (I’m only crying because a bug flew in my eye)

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      You already lost me at driving, working from home or bust. Minimum half of the week, otherwise the job sucks.

      Driving to work isn’t even counted as work time.

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        I’m all for work at home but there are still jobs that you can’t eliminate driving to work and working from home isn’t plausible.

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          Of course there are, can’t build a house from your own home.

          But most office jobs can be work from home. That also means less traffic for the workers that do have to drive.

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          It’s about wasting time, you can drive a Lambo, but you’ll still sit in traffic and waste unpaid hours every week