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I IMPLORE you all to read this https://hexbear.net/post/763625, diegetic essentialism is a waste of time and infantilizes you. Please, stop it.
And this is why Digimon was always the proletarian choice!
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I’m sorry, I’ll see myself out …
Never really tried the games but the Digimon anime was objectively better than the Pokémon anime and I will fight anyone who says otherwise
Digimon slaps so fucking hard
The difference is Pokemon makes it clear that the Pokemon enjoy battling and do it voluntarily
Are these the same people who accept JK Rowling’s “the house elves are slaves but they like it so it’s cool and even the idea of emancipation is a joke” with no further introspection?
Taking my Charmander down to the Pokemon center to get electroshock treatment for her drapetomania and then trauma-bonding afterwards with pokemon treats that are basically like heroin
SMT negotiations are by far my favorite monster-collecting methods. Just equal parts philosophy, flirtation, and gibberish as they vibe check you.
Jack Frost has joined your party without your consent!
This is less true for me than others because I spent 80% of my time in Pokemon X in Pokemon Aimie playing games with, petting, and feeding my Pokemon rather than battling with them
But yeah.
I’m sure the godly and legendary creatures I keep in a capsule in a bank are feeling good about it. Oh you’re the god of space? Enjoy the luxury ball it’s the only thing you’ll ever see again
Why shell out for the luxury ball?
Last one before i ran out completely
Pokemon is cockfighting, Mario massacres Goombas and turns by the hundreds in any given game and we know from Paper Mario they’re fully sentient and about equal to human intelligence, the star fox team are a PMC, Samus has blown up 3 planets, maybe more ans wiped out 2 species, sorta 3 if you count Evil Beak or whatever from Dread, he was likely the last Chozo. None of this shit really makes any sense and it’s pretty senseless to go thst deep into it. Especially if you’re being serious.
Diegetic essentialism 101, it leads people to ask deeply unserious and frankly stupid questions like: “is superman actually a socialist?”. Like, no , unless superman is written as such, he’s not. These fantasy worlds you escape into? Theyre written a certain way by its authors, and no amount of nerd slapfighting online will change that, please stop wasting your time.
Counterpoint: “Superman: The Red Son” is the only canon Superman comic book, all the other ones are fake alternate universe propaganda
My favorite part about the movie was when he was mad about stalin having gulags and stalin was like “sometimes you gotta do a little authority” and superman was like “no dad” and totally proved him wrong by murdering him with a laser like immediately
this is a beautiful comment
Meanwhile the chad
saves animals and the environment from the capitalist, imperialist Eggman by destroying polluting robotsomg its almost like thats the joke
omg im owned
sorry kiddo thems the breaks
PoKeMoN iS aBoUt CoCk FiGhTiNg is baby’s first edgy media interpretation. There are multiple storylines over the decades of the franchises existence that deal with Pokemon not wanting to fight and they all conclude with the message that you shouldn’t force them to fight - and in the games it’s stated that when they “attack” you, it’s because they want to test you to see if you’re good enough to be their trainer.
“The author wrote the text so the victims are happy with their lot, so criticism of their treatment is invalid” is also an immature media interpretation, and worth about as much as “All characters depicted in this work are 18 or older even if stated otherwise”.
As I’ve mentioned elsewhere in this thread, the house elves in Harry Potter are explicitly written as content with enslavement, but everybody sees that as transparently problematic. What’s the difference?
It’s fine to like pokemon (I liked/still kinda like it) but that doesn’t mean I’m blind to the iffy nature of the premise
Criticizing the game for eight year olds where your giant bee monster fights someone’s rock-dragon-snake like it has any bearing on actual animal abuse is silly to the point of absurdity. We"re straying in denouncing chess as classist because you’re expected to sacrifice the pawns territory.
We"re straying in denouncing chess as classist because you’re expected to sacrifice the pawns territory.
dont speak that evil into this forum
I like Mass Effect even though I have moral objections to fucking aliens.
Ashley brained take (joking. But fuck Ashley)
What is your moral objection to fucking a sapient being capable of consenting to sex?
No real objection. It was meant to be sarcasm but upon re-reading the post I’ve realized it actually sounds pretty bad and not so different from a reactionary take. I am sorry about that.
Youre good. Thanks for clarifying!
Maybe they just have a moral objection to aliens, and the word “fucking” was an emphatic marker
The small bugs, birds, and mammals that I obliterate with my god-dragons after I stomp through their homes are just testing me and are actually having a really good time!
They just faint! It says so in the text at the bottom.
I do agree that it is babby’s first edgy media interpretation, but it’s not wrong either.
What happens to mons who faint in the wild? Aren’t exactly any Pokemon Centers out in the tall grass.
idk, you’re just some kid how the fuck are you going to diagnose whether caterpie is still breathing
That always bugged me with the Pokémon defense. “Oh, but they like that im the master and tell them to do things. We’re all friends, just a big family!” Is the exact argument you would use if you were subjugating others but didn’t want to feel bad about it.
Are we gonna start a struggle session on keeping pets?
I’m in, I’ve always thought pet ownership was weird.
We co-evolved with dogs over the course of 40,000 years. in so far as the temr “natural” means anything, it is natural for dogs and humans to live together in close cooperation. there’s a theory going that humans and dogs (and domesticated agricultural plants) co-domesticated each other and that our close relationship with dogs (and wheat) is why humans seem to share many traits found in domesticated animals but not wild animals.
Most people don’t have pets fight each other…
The comment I replied to was talking about the subjugation part.
Yeah, which it is a fair criticism of using animals for labor, but again most people don’t do that
Why should animals be forced to live within your limits though, even if you treat them ‘well’? You’re trapping them in homes or even cages, they have basically no agency.
Because if they get outside they’ll get killed by a car and/or fuck up the environment
Pets SHOULDN’T exist, but that isn’t fixable by having individuals throw “their” animals outside, it doesn’t fix anything and causes more suffering
So I’m not “against pets” any more than someone is “against food” because they got it from a capitalist grocery store
Oh I’m not saying pets should all be euthanized immediately or anything, just that the pet and pet-breeding industry should be phased out with the goal of animals existing almost solely in the wild in the future.
but again most people don’t do that
Billions of people across the world use animals for labor, before the Industrial Revolution most people did. In much of the underdeveloped world you often have to use animal labor to survive. And often people who exploit animal labor feel genuine affection for the animals, plenty of people who use dogs for more utilitarian means still love them, plenty of farmers care for the donkey that hauls their produce to market.
