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Flying Squid@lemmy.world to TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name@lemmy.world · 2 years ago

30 Years on, TNG's Ghost Sex Episode Remains as Unhinged and Awful as Ever

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Flying Squid@lemmy.world to TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name@lemmy.world · 2 years ago
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"Sub Rosa" is reviled as one of Star Trek's lowest lows, for many, many good reasons.
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    To me it crosses into “so bad its good” territory. It’s like Dr Crusher posted this script to AO3.

    And its great meme material. 🕯

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      Yep I always happily watch this train wreck on a rewatch. The only episodes I actually can’t even watch are the riker clip episode and the one where space Africans board the enterprise to steal a white woman.

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        The most unsurprising thing about Code of Honor? The director was a fucking racist.

        The African theme of the episode was brought in by director Russ Mayberry, who had the Ligonians race cast entirely from African-American actors. Mayberry was fired during production by the show’s creator Gene Roddenberry, and First Assistant Director Les Landau completed the episode. Star Trek novel author Keith DeCandido later recalled that this was because of the casting itself,[5] while cast member Wil Wheaton (Wesley Crusher) thought that it was because Mayberry was racist towards the guest stars after they were cast.[6]

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Honor_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)

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          They weren’t even supposed to be a black race originally??

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            Nope:

            In this episode, the entire humanoid population of the planet is portrayed by African American performers. In the teleplay, however, only Lutan’s guards were specifically written as being African.

            https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Code_of_Honor_(episode)#Background_information

            Which, you know, also not terrific, but not just balls-to-the-wall racist.

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              Thing to keep in mind with that writer is she also wrote the SG-1 episode where a character got captured as a slave wife for mongols (SG-1 episode emancipation). She was fulfilling her racist brute kink. She holds the honor of writing what are considered some of the worst episodes for both series.

              https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Emancipation

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        I… kind of like the Riker clip episode. It’s just so weird and pointless.

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          It is just horribly cheesy. How they’re guiding his memories. My favorite part is when that bitch who replaced Beverly for a little while was like WE NEED MORE INTENSE MEMORIES!

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            Dr Pulaski

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              I prefer that bitch.

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                It’s Data, not Data. Still cringing decades later

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      My pet theory is that bad episodes are at least two of the following:

      -dumb

      -boring

      -cheap

      This one and the warp 10 lizard sex episode from Voyager are extremely dumb, but I love them because they’re definitely not cheap/low-effort or boring. (But if someone did find it boring I would understand them calling it a bad episode.)

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