Rio is asking for a specific accomplishment; you’re pointing out systems of government. As such, it looks like the two of you are talking past one another at the moment.
Cuba’s pivot on LGBTQ rights is a direct result of electoral politics? Or do we take the CIA line that all communist societies are autocratic systems where a single man makes all decisions?
Look, I wasn’t making the argument; you’ll see elsewhere in this thread that I agree with you. I was just trying to get your conversation back on track. That…doesn’t seem to have worked very well, unfortunately.
Yes I am talking about democracy. A subset of democratic governance is representative democracy, in which political functionaries and leaders are elected by way of popular* elections and given some* power to govern. Electoralism then is the practice of engaging with electoral politics using a variety of tactics - agitation, propaganda, canvassing, organised voting, voter suppression - in order to empower delegates who will in turn attempt to advance a political agenda. The “transfer of power from the few to the many” is one such agenda that may be pursued electorally. It is wrong to equate the goal with the political practice, they are different.
Now, within socialist tradition there exists a strain of politics, which centers electoralism as the primary mode of political struggle towards the empowerment of the working class, to the exclusion or suppression of more active forms of struggle. That is called reformism. I challenge every one of you arguing with me here to show me where I have advocated for reformism.
Rio is asking for a specific accomplishment; you’re pointing out systems of government. As such, it looks like the two of you are talking past one another at the moment.
Cuba’s pivot on LGBTQ rights is a direct result of electoral politics? Or do we take the CIA line that all communist societies are autocratic systems where a single man makes all decisions?
Look, I wasn’t making the argument; you’ll see elsewhere in this thread that I agree with you. I was just trying to get your conversation back on track. That…doesn’t seem to have worked very well, unfortunately.
Yeah my apologies. I’ll take a step back and cool off.
What you are talking about is called “democracy.” Electoralism is a method of power transfer from the few to the many.
Yes I am talking about democracy. A subset of democratic governance is representative democracy, in which political functionaries and leaders are elected by way of popular* elections and given some* power to govern. Electoralism then is the practice of engaging with electoral politics using a variety of tactics - agitation, propaganda, canvassing, organised voting, voter suppression - in order to empower delegates who will in turn attempt to advance a political agenda. The “transfer of power from the few to the many” is one such agenda that may be pursued electorally. It is wrong to equate the goal with the political practice, they are different.
Now, within socialist tradition there exists a strain of politics, which centers electoralism as the primary mode of political struggle towards the empowerment of the working class, to the exclusion or suppression of more active forms of struggle. That is called reformism. I challenge every one of you arguing with me here to show me where I have advocated for reformism.