Hexbear is far more likely to have users entering and using our comms, being another large socialist instance, albeit dedicated to left unity rather than Marxism like ourselves. I think there is enough of a culture change that we need to have a pinned post for hexbear users coming here explaining what kind of content/attitudes they might see here/what different rules to follow

There should also be a section dedicated to explaining to lemmygrad users to respect hexbear comm rules and what to expect from their users etc.

I think this would help ease any potential cross site struggle sessions

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    I do think you’re a little harsh here, but yes an automod feature is sorely needed. I did see some rumblings about making one a few weeks ago on another instance, not sure if they’ve made an progress though

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      I mean I take personal offense as a woman at saying women should be able to be rented, sex for profit, commodification of the feminine form and calling that comradely and calling upholding the contrary Marxist view bigotry but go off.

      Smattering of electoralists there too, much gnashing over who or if they should voooote this next election.

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        Do they actually promote that? I would think blatant gender based oppression should obviously be wrong even to the most unprincipled of anachists.

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              Are sex workers not workers?

              And I think everyone would agree that a developed socialist society would support everyone to the point where no one feels economically compelled to engage in sex work. Hexbear recognizes that unde capitalism sex work is usually exploitative, similar to how most other work is exploitative.

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                To act as though sex work is work done by personal choice is to be ignorant of the way it is. And to act like it is not far worse than work overall (in working conditions for the most part) is also ridiculous. The working conditions are quite horrific and to argue for no controls at all on it would only benefit the criminals and cartels. Of course they are workers and they are exploited but it is absolutely necessary to defeat such behaviors as AES nations have taken steps to do so. I also find this behavior of thinking someone knows more about solving these issues and increasing the conditions of the working class members who are subjected to sex work than AES nations is ridiculous and chauvinistic. They can be workers and we can also accept that these workers are exploited and attacked viciously and in the end must be an evil that is removed from society. In the end, I try not to and I hope others try not to think they can solved these issues more effectively than AES states have. We must insure we learn from examples and not follow these “libertarian” policies of just “anything goes”. I hope this comment does not come off as rude but this is what my thoughts are on it.

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                  Your comment didn’t come off as rude, and it looks like we agree on quite a bit. But honestly you’re responding to a lot of things I didn’t say – I didn’t suggest anything like an “anything goes” approach to sex work, and I pointed out how exploitative it usually is.

                  I also find this behavior of thinking someone knows more about solving these issues and increasing the conditions of the working class members who are subjected to sex work than AES nations is ridiculous and chauvinistic.

                  Ignoring AES states’ policies is chauvinistic, but treating them as infallible is dogmatic and unscientific. AES states themselves acknowledge their past shortcomings and seek improvements.

                  In the immediate context of trying to build socialism in a capitalist society, I think the best approach is to meet sex workers with tools that are immediately useful, like unions (which do exist for sex workers) and legal protections. Telling them that they are involved in evil and ideally their work wouldn’t exist doesn’t offer them anything within their grasp, and can come across as preachy.

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                    I don’t want to attack the actual sex workers as they are forced into it. The people who I am absolutely fine with action being taken against (which is my problem when people argue for legalization) are the pimps and the johns.

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          I’ve seen someone (male) mentioning they were a virgin and lonely and several posters encouraged them to rent a woman with one mentioning having done so themselves in the past.

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        I just said I think it’s a little harsh, there’s no need to pop off at me comrade. I prefer lemmygrad for a reason

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          Not popping off at you. Sorry if I gave that impression. Simply giving my take and justification including expanding on it.

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            but go off

            it’s ok, just fyi it was this part that made me think you were popping off

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      I disagree it’s a little harsh. We don’t need to purposely promote anachists here and need to make it clear that this is for MLs. I certainly don’t want another reddit that is filled with people who aren’t ML decrying AES in ML spaces.

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        We won’t. That’s why I want a post pinned, whole reason I made this post. Still, that in particular is not true, vast majority of people on there will dunk on you for shitting on AES

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          Yeah I’ve been here, and on Hexbear the same amount of time, and they’re both kinda similar. There is def more people who aren’t explicitly ML on Hexbear, but most are. They all seem to love Cuba, and I’ve never seen anyone shit on AES nations. Sure they’re not as hardline, but it’s not as bad as people are making it out here imo. Though I do totally understand the worry! Just don’t entirely agree with the assessment on Hexbear. I’m ML, just to be clear.