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Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.
If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cutānāpaste it into its own post ā thereās no quota for posting and the bar really isnāt that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many āesotericā right wing freaks, but thereās no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iām talking redscare-ish, reality challenged āculture criticsā who write about everything but understand nothing. Iām talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyāre inescapable at this point, yet I donāt see them mocked (as much as they should be)
Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnāt be surgeons because they didnāt believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canāt escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
Not sure which sub a heartwarming story of Nazis shooting their own dicks off goes under, but: Nina Power of Compact gets called a nazi. Sues for defamation. In discovery, produces extensive facts not just supporting Nazi ideas but calling herself a Nazi. Loses so hard she just declared bankruptcy.
there has been no media coverage of this, but hoo boy does there need to be
EDIT: ohhh itās the fuckin LD50 gallery, straight up NRX. Judgement, PDF
Wonder how the lawyers reacted when they got that treasure trove filled with stolen nazi gold during discovery.
there are some phenomenal whoppers just in the opening paragraphs of that article, holy shit
this is gonna make great piecemeal reading today!
discovery as humiliation conga line of āfairy alien nazi racism is totally my bag babyā
ah yes, a good ole
we have scientifically ascertained that this is in fact that rare correct use case for the following emoji sequence: š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£
hahahaha happy garbage day everybody
The logs also show Ms Power claiming that āthe social disapproval for āracismā is a psyop to stop people realising that there are alien and fairy racesā, and that āblack and white were alien races and very differentā.
wait, is believing in fairies as an adult a weird racist thing? fuck, itād kind of make sense if the people Iāve known who just causally slipped āby the way fairies are realā into casual conversation were doing a dogwhistle I didnāt pick up on
This is one of those David Icke things where youāre not sure if reptilians/fairies/aliens mean reptilians/fairies/aliens or if theyāre some kind of code or euphemism.
the original recipe nazis were deep into occultism so maybe
see also all the TERFs yesterday loudly coming out in support of Power and her Nazi revelation
the TERF to nazi pipeline is a doorway, or perhaps just walking over to the other side of the same room
the TERF to nazi pipeline is a doorway,
It is funny how mad TERFs get when you mention they are saying the same things as neo-nazis, and then a few days later another TERF who is also a natzi is revealed again.
Have to wonder what happened to her brain since the days when she had stuff published at the Guardian.
given some of the other things Iāve seen from the guardian, not sure that wouldāve necessarily been a contraindicator
I mean they didnāt seem very fashy at first. The later ones (2018, when she was fashy on the down-low ) started to get TERFy but earlier (2010-2014) it was all "the police arenāt your friendā and stuff about government trying to restrict the right to protest, etc.
(I looked over her Guardian contributions after reading about the bankruptcy etc in this thread.)
I guess that is the same duration/timeline as the guardian downslope arc
The guardian is kind of irrelevant to what I was getting at.
I know someone whoās a practicing christian and has said theyāve seen angels
technical, intelligent person on all fronts otherwise. I have ā¦ not pushed matters
(e: not claiming this person I reference is racist, more that Iāve heard some really fucking kooky shit in many spectra, so I donāt know how much of a heuristic that sort of thing is by itself. the fairies thing may be a bit more concrete/direct - gonna have to try test it on some flaming racists sometime)
causally slipped āby the way fairies are realā
wait, what? What sort of context? Multiple people? FFS TELL
so I think I must just have one of those faces cause itās been something that multiple former friends have revealed to me, and itās usually a weird show of trust? and itās always something like āyou know, I just think fairies must be real, like theyāve got to be out there? you know?ā
and in all cases Iāve gone āā¦oh thatās coolā and mentally earmarked that person as ādo not trust with heavy machineryā
just remembered someone i met decades ago going on and on about spiritualism and ESP and just happened to drop in their own massive racism, thereās definitely a type
yeah i have one of those faces too (tall, blue eyes, Danish cheekbones), disconcerting number of nazis who wanted me to be in with them
I get the club invite most times I speak afrikaans in pretoria
in australia the club invite is just a way of saying āhiā to your fellow white person
ja that can happen/s here too
presumably your bones comprehend all the non-weather reasons that .au is such a popular za expat destination
some numbers on recent hypewave investments in here (via techmeme)
Last year, Tom Loverro, an investor at IVP, predicted a āmass extinction eventā for start-ups and encouraged them to cut costs. Last week, he declared that era over and christened this time the āGreat Reawakening,ā encouraging companies to āpour gasā on growth, particularly around artificial intelligence
jesus fucking christ these people would love to call it the enlightenment or something, wouldnāt they?
āSam Altman canceled the recession,ā joked Siqi Chen, founder of the start-up Runway Financial
one day soon Iām going to get to my project of building up a graph database of every crank and issuer of batshit statements like these, so that in times to come I can easily follow up on āem and see how their shit aged. but all hail sammy, the saviour! no, forget about that musk fool, no-one ever liked him! sammy is where itās at!
also @dgerard for your pillaging pleasure
Iām so sick of āif only we had more humanities in education the elites wouldnāt be fucking up the world.ā that has nothing to do with reality, it never has, it never will
i thought it was a part of prevention of future engineer disease cases
Yeah same, but hey my cs education had courses both on basic ethics and how to run businesses, so some attempts were made at least.
It really is unwarranted self importance. t humanities major
if only king leopold had been exposed to the humanities bro š
traveling back in time and teaching the rulers of the british empire about a little thing called literature
Two tweets and I can tell you at least 5 substacks he subscribes to
PrimalPoly was a sort of semi regular of the old sneerclub, so I can tell you a lot more than that.
heās also figured here a couple of times too
Fr? Whatās his deal?
I have such sights to show you And more
About half of evopsychgoogleās tweets are also about him and his wife.
He and his wife (also a piece of work) have a very strange poly relationship btw, it seems to be more a constant dominance struggle than a loving poly relationship.
And you know how a lot of these people when faced with the slightest pushback turn further and further right. 2013
90% of the weird evo psych women on their period things you ever heard about, also him. (And while I donāt get the American fascination with strippers/strip clubs, I do get it is an important macho man culture thing for American men to do things with/around strip clubs so cudos for him that he managed to trick the university into sponsoring his visits).
long term Evolutionary Psychology race scientists
also hang out in Effective Altruism, of course
I think thereās a bug with your post button, it sent the same message twice
both him and his wife are quite the pieces of work
Every day I become more convinced that this acct is an elaborate psyop being run by Yann LeCun to discredit doomers. Nobody could be this gullible IRL, right?
Amazing.
I also remember another time people did the 'let two AIās (no idea what time it was at the time, certainly not an LLM, some other ML technique) talk to each other, but in a actual production setting (E:I was wrong on the setting, see the article for better info->), the Facebook/Meta one (First link I could find on google, didnāt read it, just a way to find out more for people who never heard about it). But then it started to produce gibberish/ātheir own languageā. Of course this was also a sign of it āwaking upā.
And I note again that in the LLM experiment, the āAGIāsā are still keeping perfectly fine to the bounds of the experiment, even if they do or do not directly reference the researcher. They still play into the fiction, as talking to the researcher about the other AI is part of the fiction. It would be more interesting if they did something unexpected than regurgitate video game ingame notes.
static dot dot dot emergency dot dot dot shutdown
lol
āmultiple realitiesā
Come on, I have written similar things while roleplaying as an AI. The first is useful when you need a quick break to go to the toilet, and the second is a good excuse because you made a mistake a real fictional AI couldnāt make.
E: also funny that they worry about the shoggoth behind the friendly face and then get freaked out when the AIās talk in normal science fiction fluff to each other, and it doesnāt become incoherently weird. (like the example above).
im doing my part
I went to the study, and thatās the global market size for all sex toys annually, and just eyeballing another chart, butt plugs might be 10% of that. So butt plugs are around $3 or $4 Billion. On the bright side, unlike AI safety, butt plugs actually serve a function.
Meatloaf didnāt anticipate the budgetary implications of enlisting us all in the Armies of the Night. Thus, humanity was ill-prepared when Skynet attackedā¦
Oh my god. The AI chatbots which were designed to mimic human writing are saying stuff exactly like the sci-fi stories I read online. They must be alive.
Iāve sat and had beer with someone (whoās worked in the space but not LLMs) who read the Bitter Lesson and got real into the idea of humans ājust being universal function approximatorsā and had wholesale bought into the idea that we should throw everything we possibly can into this shit, no resource cost or requirement is too high or too uncertain, that it would definitely be the right thing to so
so I can tell you without no uncertainty that there are definitely people who buy into it
I poked the conversation gently, to see how far the conviction went. it was pretty comprehensively bought-in. was a somewhat surprising experience tbh
How did they respond to the counterargument that humans are simplyā¦ built different?
that was the response. and this is a person with exposure to (and their own undertakings in) creative works
it was a pretty wild conversation tbh
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YouTube recommended me this hot garbage where we judge humanities like itās a STEM field. I want my time back or at least some quality sneers: https://youtu.be/v0eWDScWSXY?si=wgJ60AfT0YYn_4-M
Callard and Hanson, there is no way iām watching a second of that
Considering the view counts a common thought. The amount of twitter followers vs yt subs vs actual views is funny. They even tried a tiktok.
And they are trying so hard. Andrew Tate! Hogwarts Legacy! Destiny (the streamer, not the game, betting on the wrong horse there folks) Slapping at the Oscars! Pandemics!
So this is apparently something AI companies now think is smart to advertise with. Donāt know whoād willingly consider this something targeted at them, but here we are.
the part of me that sometimes spends an hour just choosing the right words for the couple of paragraphs Iām writing is fucking screaming
ā¦
there is a screaming noise that comes from me while I write
thanks magibook!
canāt wait for this shit to show up in usage among people who have english as an additional language at different level of fluency to their primaries. totally donāt see it causing a cascade clusterfuck in communication and comprehension.
thereās already a strain of this out there, with a lot of english-non-first students using LLMs to āmake their work sound more polishedā. similar as the strain using it for CVs etc
ran across a great thread on fedi a while back, will see if I can find it
Itās good that theyāre offsetting their advantages in the marketplace of money by actively crippling themselves in the marketplace of ideas.
I rewrote the ad so they can lean into their marketing strategy.
Hard book have hard word and make head hurt, AI make book easy! More book read for you. No hard word. This good idea!
I want to make a zoolander riff but my brain just isnāt cooperating, so instead pretend I did (just like these people pretend their product is worth something)
Hahah lol, that was pretty good.
ah yes, the Simple English wiki filter but wrong
I canāt even
Dan Luuās āA discussion of discussions on AI biasā, about techbros trying to gaslight the rest of the world into thinking ML models donāt have problems
Another example which doesnāt make a good viral news story is my not being able to put my Vietnamese name in the title of my blog and have my blog indexed by Google outside of Vietnamese-language Google ā I tried that when I started my blog and it caused my blog to immediately stop showing up in Google searches unless you were in Vietnam. Itās just assumed that the default is that people want English language search results and, presumably, someone created a heuristic that would trigger if you have two characters with Vietnamese diacritics on a page that would effectively mark the page as too Asian and therefore not of interest to anyone in the world except in one country.
the entire post is very good, but my brain zeroed in on this as both a perfect example of why search was absolutely fucked even before LLMs (who in fuck deploys a language heuristic that doesnāt take the content of the page into account? who asked for this?) and of the engineering attitudes that feed into LLMs and generative AI having unevaluated biases and defenders that insist those biases canāt be real
I run into this exact problem so often with music: itās extremely fucking annoying to convince search engines or other kinds of things that, yes, I do in fact want that turkish/finnish/russian/brazilian/thai/irish/ā¦ā¦ result set from this english query, and thereās just almost zero affordance for it
they segment things into de facto silos and if you donāt already happen to have some way in which to pull on a string to lead the way there (or can input the desired query in the applicable language and spelling) youāll have a bitch of a time. check a couple of those items from my entries on the music thread a while back for references to test with
god damn those recasting images
it will never not be hilarious how pathetic this technology/approach is
Dan Hendrycks wants us all to know itās imperative his AI kill switch bill is passed- after all, the cosmos are at stake here!
https://xcancel.com/DrTechlash/status/1805448100712267960#m
Super weird that despite receiving 20 million dollars in funding from SBF & co. and not being able to shut the fuck up about 10^^^10 future human lives the moment he goes on a podcast, Danny boy insists that any allegations that he is lobbying on behalf of the EAs are simply preposterous.
Now please hand over your gpus uwu, itās for your safety š¤ we donāt allow people to have fissile material, so why would we allow them to multiply matrices?
Tired: The earth is doomed due to climate change :(
Wired: Ignore that stuff; the cosmos are at stake unless we burn our planet generating bad AI generated āpoetryā
Inspired: Oh wait oh no, Oh no. this is where Vogon Poetry came from isnāt it? Burn it all down.
turns out there was a good reason they wanted to turf us, we just didnāt know it yet
Ex-evangelical spotted!
What is it about growing up in insular fundamentalist communities that drives peeps straight into the basiliskās scaly embrace?
Theres a specific word for that phenomena I believe, I just canāt remember at the moment. It certainly is a thing with all the high control group cults, say ex-JWās.
Crank magnetism?
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When my local civilians get drawn into the conflict
via Little Bubby Child
I could hear this while reading it ahaha
Right?!
Being far from home at the moment, I really appreciate Bubbyās mountain vibes. Feels like a trip to Grannyās house.
the faster training data gets polluted the faster ai companies get fucked. therefore, I propose the deliberate creation of unmarked ai compost piles on reddit and discord: ācommunitiesā managed so as to minimize visibility to humans while generating large quantities of shit data
We could just mix corporate and bot responses to all content at a 99:1 ratio so the AI companies struggle to tell the difference. Also no need to do anything, as this is running on reddit right now.
if this were running you would be unlikely to know about it. the novel part is not spamming reddit, itās trying to do so strictly to target ai companies, without humans ever seeing the result
Personally havenāt seen a headline about Olā Billy Boy ever since word got around that he was a diamond medallion member of the lolita express airlines. William Gatorade thinks AIās got what climate craves, i.e. waste heat.
Gates also mentioned that AI will be a good force in providing better health care and tackling climate change, in particular by calling nuclear fusion energy a clean alternative to fossil fuels.
Ah yes, fusion. With the wealth of data we have from - checks notes - stars and bombs, the applied statistics machines will surely be able to extrapolate working fusion reactors.
Donāt know what we need Gates for. Surely an AI should be able to spout this bullshit?
Eh, thereās a chance that machine learning might help hereā¦ thereās some interesting stuff come out of that area of research, like radio antennae and rocket engines and so on, but Iād bet anything that a) no LLMs were involved and none ever will be, and b) āaiā only appears in marketing copy and funding pitches.
dunno about rockets, but antenna thingy works only because you can simulate performance of antenna very reliably, precisely and quickly. This data was fed back, random small changes were made, things that were an improvement passed to the next iteration. Not sure how this approach is called but none of it is LLM
āgenetic algorithmā - something I hadnāt previously seen branded as āAIā, but I guess Iām not surprised
yeah thatās it, forgot a word for it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolved_antenna
that ST5 antenna looks like a low-poly two turn helical antenna, but how it looks like will be a function of design requirements
i think that openai also wanted to solve their problems with fusion, but they got a step further, they made a startup for this. not normal nuclear power plant hot rock machine, no, they want tech that is perpetually Just A Decade Away. it makes some perverse sense if your funding is dependent on misguided hype only
fusion research is just thinnest disguise for thermonuclear weapons research, especially the inertial confinement fusion variety
Donāt know what we need Gates for. Surely an AI should be able to spout this bullshit?
Ugh, so many people are working the āAI will solve X problemā mill. I donāt need nor want AI to be there increasing output.
Why is he carrying books and DVDs on a baking sheet?
One is by David Brooks, so itās guaranteed to be half baked?
He has a smart oven with AI and wants to feed it data?
FEED ME,
SEYMOURBILLY!
Now this is the shit. This right here. The only usecase for genAI - massively uncanny shitposts meant for consumption at 3AM in a dark corner of YouTube while on vibes enhancing substances.
This is what god wouldnāt have wanted and therefore is what we must pursue.
vibes enhancing substances
fuck yes
Biblically Accurate Gymnasts
https://matduggan.com/a-eulogy-for-devops/
Possibly interesting blog post about what the idea of ādevopsā promised, and how it failed to deliver. With any luck, the āgetting back to basicsā thing will actually happen, instead of people imagining they are google and building nightmares out of kubernetes.
