Its like Hillary walking into a working class kitchen for the first time.

They’ve been shielded from even critical support of China and other AES for so long they literally, not figuratively, literally cannot process that people exist that have beliefs that aren’t Reddit Approved. They immediately assume it’s bots or wumao. Human beings can’t possibly hold these beliefs, so they must be Oriental hordes or actual robots.

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      I don’t care if they’re holding people accountable for corruption. Why does a country supposably aiming for socialism have BILLIONAIRES in the FIRST PLACE??

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        They have them as a byproduct of Deng’s reforms which allowed rapid development of the means of production, they need to be managed of course and suppressed by the people’s democratic dictatorship, which they are. Eventually development will reach the point where they are no longer useful and can be fully done away with.

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        Dogmatism and ideological purity are blinding you. It certainly should be a conversation about why billionaires exist in China, especially as they strengthen their safeguards against capital flight, but their existence alone does not discredit the great strides of progress China has made under SwCC in under a century. There are few examples of such a large mass of people seeing such substantive improvements in their lives. No matter the system, such dramatic change will result in unforseen consequences because there is so much change occuring. The measure of the response though is what is important: protecting themselves from capital flight, placing party leadership within corporations, focusing on carbon reduction through reduced pollution, tree planting, and alternative energy sources are all measurable ways the government is correcting. Where else do you see such response by those in power for their citizens? The Chinese approval for their government is incredibly high, and this is why

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        it was either embrace partial capitalism or get strangled out of the world economy. Deng’s reforms brought a massive influx of foreign investment and expertise.

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            The wealth of Norway depends on the imperialist white supremacist settler colonial extractive ventures of the West. The wealth of China does not. Simple as.

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              This isn’t about wealth. Does Norway have 12 year olds in factories? Tell me why Norway gives workers 3x more paid time off? Don’t you think China’s rich enough to make things better for workers?

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                Does Norway have 12 year olds in factories?

                Literally yes, in third world countries.

                3x more paid time off

                They can afford to without the threat of economic domination by burgerstan, also see point 1 above.

                China also is making things better for workers, moreso than America or even the declining Nordic states.