So thanks libs for 4 years of gaslighting our asses that nothing was wrong with Biden and YOU were the crazy one to think otherwise. Glad we wasted more years on yet another do nothing empty suit while fascism has had more time to consolidate and not to mention the ever worsening climate disaster.

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      Honestly I’ve just resigned myself to Copmala being the functioning president. I think she’s going to win since Trump lost his mojo and nobody outside of the diehard ride or die MAGA are still with him, I think at least.

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        Libs like to say it’s hard for Trump to appeal to new voters. But the opposite of that is that he has a certain percentage of voters absolutely locked in. Kamala doesn’t have that. Also - the GOP has been working really hard to give themselves the ability to cause chaos leading up to election and more chaos beyond up until January 6th.

        I think there are two reasons Trump isn’t campaigning. One, he’s scared of getting assassinated. Two, he expects the GOP justices on the supreme court will hand him an illegimate victory. Estimations of the vote on or after election day could show Kamala clearly won because she got the most Electoral College votes. But in the meanwhile GOP in one or more swing states contest the results and take the issue to court because… reasons. If a state case goes to the supreme court that means they’ll side with Trump and he wins.

        For example Trump totally controls the electoral board in Georgia and they are going out of their way to create post-election chaos. Pro-Trump Georgia election board votes to require hand counts of ballots.

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        nobody outside of the diehard ride or die MAGA are still with him

        This does not seem to be what the polls suggest at all. If she wins, it looks like it’s going to be closer than 2020. He’s beating his numbers with most non-white demographics already.

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        I think she’ll win the popular vote and lose the electoral vote. Georgia especially is looking like a Republican steal with their new election interference laws.

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        I’m not so sure.

        The fact that the approval rating for trump-anguish stayed pretty much exactly where it was before and after every incident of the formerly wet boy drying out suggests that roughly half of the voting population sees trump-moist as a manifestation of whatever they already believed he was, no matter what he says or does. It’s that thing about shooting someone in broad daylight and no one minding.

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            worth remembering 35-50% of the eligible population straight up doesn’t vote. Not for either the fascist nor the vampire in the fascist-and-vampire-show of US elections. It’s all the petty bourgeois suburbanites, yuppie gentrifiers, and small business tyrants, and the big bourgeois donors that both candidates are fighting over. That is to say, a quarter to half of the ‘burgers’ are too disenfranchised and disillusioned to give any kind of a fuck about this, as has been the case for a number of years; and no one can in good faith blame them.

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        I think she’s going to win

        Maybe, but we’ve seen this before. No one thought he’d win the first time but pollsters strongly undercounted his supporters, who didn’t respond to polls to begin with. Liberal arrogance played its role too, of course, as it usually does.

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      no, as long as Kamala took over after the halfway point of Biden’s first term (Jan 2023), she could still get elected twice and serve a total of just under 10 years.

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    Part of the reason for the election spectacle is to make people feel invested in their decision to vote for whoever they do. If you vote for someone and they get elected, then any criticism of that person is a criticism of you and your decision making.

    People were fine with criticizing both Biden and Kamala during the 2020 primaries, because they weren’t invested in defending their decision, but the moment he became the nominee, he became a shining pillar of perfection, and as soon as he was no longer the nominee, he lost that. It almost gives you whiplash how quickly they switch back and forth between stanning everything he does. I’ve also seen the bullshit talking point of, “Congress controls weapons sales to Israel, Biden would love to stop it but can’t because he’s just a smol bean” (ignoring all the times he bypassed Congress to send more weapons) suddenly disappear from liberals’ mouths. Seamlessly, they’ve switched over to BlueAnon conspiracy theories about how Kamala is secretly pro-Palestinian and is just pretending not to be to fool the deep state Zionist voters, or just willfully misinterpreting her statements as pro-Palestinian.

    No propaganda could ever compete with what voting does to people’s brains.

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    My libs have informed me that protests are “bad” and they wish they didn’t have to worry about them. No understanding of the actual reason why people have been protesting. I had to explain it to them. That’s Australian media for you.

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    They were given permission to admit it by the media after that debate. My Blue MAGA high school history teacher who recently blocked me on Facebook for commenting on his posts admitted it but acted like it was only since the debate that it was apparent. I was like no we could all see it and many of us were talking about it for years already. “Well I agree that he’s declined mentally but I disagree that it was evident before this”. Totally dishonest, they’ll toe the party line at all times and if the line changes they don’t miss a beat.