Fans customized the Wicked movie poster to more closely match the original Broadway poster.

Original Broadway Poster:

Movie poster:

Some fans, disappointed by the poster, altered it to be closer to the original, moving Grande’s hand and lowering the brim of Erivo’s hat to cover her eyes. The edits prompted Erivo to respond. “This is the wildest, most offensive thing I have seen

“None of this is funny. None of it is cute. It degrades me. It degrades us,” Erivo continued. “The original poster is an ILLUSTRATION. I am a real life human being, who chose to look right down the barrel of the camera to you, the viewer… because, without words we communicate with our eyes.”

So, this seems like a completely reasonable reaction to fans making fan content.

  • vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de
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    The original’s smile communicates much more stuff than the eyes on the face that looks like it’s completely bored.

    Trying to “communicate with her eyes” is exactly what makes the poster bad.

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      i disagree, but your interpretation of her eyes is your own and completely beside the point, in any case.

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        It’s not besides the point. It’s in fact the whole point. That’s why there is a fan edit and a response and a backlash to the backlash.

        All of this is the point here. You can’t handwave away the other side cause you don’t agree or want to handle that argument.

        Her eyes look bored and like she’s trying to look serious. Like she’s worried you realized you can smell her last fart.

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          “All of this is the point here.”

          no, unless you are responding to somebody else, you are barking up a tree in a completely separate field.

          “You can’t handwave away the other side cause you don’t agree or want to handle that argument.”

          I’ve swatted every insult and argument here so far without breaking a sweat because they have no standing or, like your comments, are completely irrelevant to my comments, what you might want to try reading before responding to.

          what you think of her expression is completely immaterial and irrelevant to any of my comments.

          maybe you think you’re responding to somebody else?

          you can think anything you like about her expression. whatever you like; it sounds like you like farts, so you’re thinking about farts.

          That’s fine, and is completely irrelevant with respect to invalidating her own feelings of erasure.

          that is what I have been addressing, and what most of you have completely whiffed on or shamefully been attacking her for.

          I don’t care how people see the poster, I care that people are not respecting her feelings at being erased from her own artwork.

          it doesn’t matter what you think of the artwork in the slightest.

          it matters that you’re disrespecting someone for expressing themselves, bullying someone because they are being sincere.

          you’re dehumanizing them because what they say makes you uncomfortable.

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            Her own artwork…. Movies are collaborations. She it a tiny but important part of the artwork not the entirety. Shit she’s like the sixth person playing the role. She created not much.

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              “She it a tiny but important part of the artwork…”

              yes. and look how furious and contemptuous it has still made you that she has an opinion about her own work.

              you claim she’s so unimportant, so why is it that she deserves so much contempt and abuse from a dozen strangers in one post simply for expressing her opinion, without demanding change or attacking anyone.

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                No, I’m contemptuous of you. She’s foolish for feeling that way and you’re foolish for acting like she’s a victim. She’s the subject of fan art, boo fucking hoo. Not even rule34 fanart. Get off yourself.

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                  “No, I’m contemptuous of you[wait for it]. She’s foolish for feeling that way[this is contempt]”

                  and yet you are insulting Cynthia. now that you realize how shameful that is, you’re turning your tantrum on the person who pointed it out.

                  you aren’t contemptuous of me, you’re upset that I’ve called you out.

                  you are following the common emotional line of everyone else here who is insulting and dehumanizing her.

                  “She’s the subject of fan art, boo fucking hoo”

                  she got hurt and shared her feelings. that doesn’t threaten you or affect your life, and yet you’re furious at her.

                  kind of weird, huh? wonder what that says about you.

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            Wow. Ok.

            You know you can make something and it still be bad right?

            • Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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              what do you need help with understanding here?

              you need an example of someone that made “bad” art, you mean?

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          ooh good question.

          she has a very deliberate stare and a relaxed face, so it looks like she’s hearing something she doesn’t like that concerns her and she’s deciding what to do about it.

          I also see something vulnerable in there, since the muscles around her eyes aren’t very tense, but still a very earnest look.

          hoping for understanding, with a little resignation to do what must be done.

          she’s nailing it with respect to her role, now that you bring it up.