‘Choose’ rhymes with ‘lose’? I mean c’mon, someone did that shit on purpose 👀

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    english is a very silly language that’s evolved so you can do almost anything with it

    it’s a risky strat but it seems to have worked

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    May as well combine words with the same pronunciation into one word and call it Simplified English (/s)

    Honestly tho, this is one of the features of Simplified Chinese, which created the infamous “fuck vegetables” (干菜类).

    It’s meant to say “dried vegetables” (乾菜類 in TC), but 乾→干. Meanwhile, there exists 幹→干 as well, which means “fuck”.

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    It’s a miracle I know it, and having to teach someone how to read and spell was an eye opener for me trying to explain “this is like this except for this one word because… Reasons and sometimes there’s a variation like this because…reasons” so many times.

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      Agreed, I am teaching my second son to read.

      I am having the same conversations as when I taught my first to read.

      “ok, this word is a ‘sight word’ because it doesn’t make the sounds you expect. It says won, but it looks like it says on-e”

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      Don’t get me started on ough and ead.

      The lead soldier kneaded dough in the bough brush while they read the book that they previously read while taking a furlough in the rough.

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      Hoes drop their clothes.

      Who the hell decided that close is pronounced the same as clothes?

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        No one? They aren’t pronounced the same in any accent that I’m aware of.

        Edit: I’m dumb. I was reading that as the “nearby” close and not the "shut " close.

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          I don’t know shit about fuck when it comes to the differences between accents/dialects but it’s at least enough of a thing to be there in dictionaries.

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          You’re probably thinking of the pronunciation of close as in ‘close to you’

          I was thinking of the pronunciation of close as in ‘close the door’

          Which is pronounced the same as clothes.

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            Those still aren’t pronounced the same. The th in clothes isn’t silent.

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              I pronounce the th sometimes, but not always, depends how fast I’m talking

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              Huh? I have lived in every corner and the middle of the United States and I have never heard anyone pronounce the TH in clothes no matter the accent. It always sounds like close as in to close the door.

              Unless you are thinking of cloths, as in a pile of wash cloths.

              English kinda sucks sometimes.

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                I’m American and I’ve never heard a single person ever pronounce it “close”. Listen closely and you’ll hear that the word sounds longer. That’s the pronunciation. It’s not a hard “thuh”. It’s a soft “ths”. Say the word “cloths” but use a long “o” sound rather than “awh”.

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              I’m not sure where you’re from, but the th is indeed silent in my area regarding the word ‘clothes’. I’ve never heard it pronounced any different than ‘close’.

              Now if it’s said as ‘clothing’, the th is indeed pronounced. But not for ‘clothes’. And I’ve worked at a clothing store before.

              You might be thinking of the word ‘cloths’, which indeed does pronounce the th.

              English is weird like that.

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                I’m not sure where you’re from, but the th is indeed silent in my area regarding the word ‘clothes’. I’ve never heard it pronounced any different than ‘close’.

                I’m not sure where you’re from, the th in is always pronounced in my area regarding the word ‘clothes’. I’ve never heard it pronounced the same as ‘close’

                I will say that people got called out for pronouncing it the same as the spice ‘cloves’.

                FWIW My area = rural southern UK.

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                  Yeah absolutely not silent. Unless perhaps you’re a cockney. Source: I’m in northern England. Perhaps it is a British thing.

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                  I’m in the US and I pronounce it, I think a lot of people do? Maybe I just know a lot of snobs and “regular” Americans mush the word together but I don’t think so

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                  Oh well that’s easy then, it’s because you guys speak British, not English!

                  Kidding aside, I lived in East Anglia for a few years as a kid and I don’t remember the British kids saying it that way either, but that was a really long time ago and my memory ain’t what it used to be! I think. I can’t remember how it used to be actually.

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                  You seem like the sort of person that would pronounce the word often with a hard T, yet still pronounce the letter A as if it was an O.

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                So on laundry day you put away your clo_s_ing? The rest of us have clo_th_ing.

                I can edit also.

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        I don’t know that they sound that different, but I definitely “pronounce” them differently in that my tongue is in a different party of my mouth for both of them. When I say clothes, my tongue is near touching my front teeth, where as close is more just below that ridge behind my teeth, so farther back.

        I’m from the center of the U.S. for reference.

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        Okay as a non-native speaker who struggles with consonant clusters this is both the best and worst thing I learned today.

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          Hey we may have our language rules pulled from 30 different other languages and applied seemingly at random, but at least we don’t have to memorize the gender of every inanimate object in the world!

          I’ve taken 5 years of German and self studied some Russian and Spanish, and goddamn that gendered noun shit is really, really hard for native English speakers.

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            Okay you got me there. Also for what it’s worth, gendered nouns are hard even when you natively speak a language with gendered nouns. Source: Am an Arabic speaker and will Jihad anyone who says a chair is female.

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    they are very different in my mind. perhaps because i first came across them in their respective contexts through reading.

    even when speaking, to me, lose rhymes with booze and loose rhymes with goose.

    this has never been a problem for me, personally.

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    If we start now, we can probably switch the pronunciations of Aristotle and chipotle within a generation.

    Chip-ot-el

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    Obviously the plural of foot is feet, so the plural of book should be beek.

    Or one sheep should be a shoop.

    There’s also the English Vowel Shift. Which means words either side of it are inconsistent.