• TonyOstrich@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    24
    ·
    4 days ago

    And yet they still probably won’t allow any third party app to have access to RCS via an API. FFS.

    • DynamoSunshirtSandals@possumpat.io
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      14
      ·
      3 days ago

      Wish the EU would start a lawsuit against them for that. It is blatantly anti-competitive and responsible for the death of so many messaging apps.

      But I guess the EU is content with non-interoperable Whatsapp harvesting and gatekeeping the personal communication of almost every citizen. Even worse than Google Messages IMO.

      • Skull giver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 days ago

        The EU doesn’t use SMS or RCS. The anti gatekeeper legislation requires a minimal amount of users which RCS is never going to reach.

        Also, if you don’t trust RCS, I don’t see why you’d trust Google or your carrier. Google is the only RCS provider with any decent uptake and they exist purely because of selling user data. Other RCS servers has been shutting down for years because nobody used their carriers’ servers. And even if they did, the messages would be just as plaintext, unencrypted, and searchable on a whim by governments as RCS is now, because only Google’s layer on top of RCS, containing all that delicious metadata in plaintext, is encrypted. Hell, RCS is in such an unmaintained state that Google is hosting RCS for carriers because they’ve actually bothered maintaining an RCS server all these years and almost nobody else has.

        WhatsApp sucks but it’s heaps better than RCS when it comes to privacy. And at least third parties can communicate over WhatsApp soon, whereas RCS is restricted to telcos.

  • Brad Boimler@startrek.website
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    34
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    4 days ago

    Glad I use GrapheneOS and don’t use any Google apps or services anymore it’s amazing how I no longer get spam calls and texts since the switch.

      • Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        4 days ago

        Same but I think it will soon not be enough. I still cant believe it’s now so difficult to not be a google product, this is a digital nightmare built by decades of unregulated capitalism. Kiss my ass GAFAM.

        • AndrewZabar@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          2 days ago

          I mean, nothing is forcing anyone to use any specific product, and there are certainly smartphones with neither Android or iOS.

          Personally, at some point I will switch from iPhone to an Android device that can work with something independent like /e/ or one of the other decent ones.

      • DrDystopia
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        4 days ago

        De-googling is not enough, there must be nothing to de-Google from the start.

        • AndrewZabar@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          2 days ago

          That’s one approach but far more limited than just using a Google-free Android build like Lineage.

          • DrDystopia
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            2 days ago

            I know, that’s why I advocate for going Google free from the outset.

              • DrDystopia
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                24 hours ago

                Different threat models have different necessities. I believe a regular user should avoid Google ( or rather all of GAFAMBATX) connections at all costs. I think everybody (me included, of course) is better off with a dumbphone than a Degoogled phone.

                It’s obvious we have different opinions, I respect your right to run any system as you want. I don’t think I have any more to contribute to this topic.

                • AndrewZabar@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  20 hours ago

                  Yeah I’m not really disagreeing with you it’s just I don’t run anything that’s as privacy-necessary as you. My actual phone is iPhone and all the Android stuff I experiment with are lab systems for tinkering, rom mod testing etc. If I had anything that was being used for any really private or sensitive data, hell yes I would use something completely detached from anything google.

    • Pringles@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      3 days ago

      Don’t you have issues with banking apps then? It’s the one thing holding me back from switching, but I haven’t really done a deep dive in it.

  • woelkchen@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    15
    ·
    4 days ago

    So it will finally be able to do what “OK Google” should have been able to do from the beginning?

  • neomachino@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    12
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    3 days ago

    Might be an unpopular opinion but, this sounds really exciting to me. I hate fidgeting with my phone and always have been super interested in a true AI type assistant type thing.

    It’s a shame no one should ever trust this, regardless of what company makes it.

    Oh what the world could be.

    • bruhSoulz@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      3 days ago

      Yo fax too many people just hate ai for the hell of it, I just hate the folks who happen to be in control of all the cool ai tech. Imagine if… Openai was actually FOSS ai!!!😳

        • bruhSoulz@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          3 days ago

          Try duckai (by duckduckgo) its not ideal but its something. It acts as a middleman between you and a few llms and they have agreements that ur queries aren’t used for training+metadata is removed by ddg before it reaches the llm I believed

  • nope@jlai.lu
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    3 days ago

    If it was able to do that without phoning home I’d definitely dive it a try

  • catloaf@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    4 days ago

    Can’t wait for it to completely mangle all my alarms. Google assistants already tell me “you don’t have a list called grocery” when I ask if bread is on it, but is happy to add it to the list again when I tell it to.

    • henrikx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      4 days ago

      That’s the whole point. Google assistant sucks because it only understands commands, and doesn’t understand natural language. This is Google’s attempt at making a truly great assistant, as they always envisioned it to be. Personally, I am very excited as there is a lot of potential in the technology. It would be a shame if they don’t execute well on it.

  • zerozaku@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    3 days ago

    Gemini would be only a system app right? Then I should be able to disable it too right? This is something Google app on your device already does I believe.

  • Xylight@lemdro.id
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    4 days ago

    I think this will run on device similar to Apple Intelligences’s app intents.