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    For anyone who is interested in knowing if she ever ended up shooting a fascist, here’s the relevant paragraph from Wikipedia:

    As she was extremely nearsighted, Weil was a very poor shot. Her comrades tried to avoid taking her on missions, though she did sometimes insist. Her only direct participation in combat was to shoot with her rifle at a bomber during an air raid; in a second raid, she tried to operate the group’s heavy machine gun, but her comrades prevented her, as they thought it would be best for someone less clumsy and near-sighted to use the weapon. After being with the group for a few weeks, she burnt herself over a cooking fire.

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      That’s actually a fairly complicated answer, regarding the Spanish Civil War. To my (very weak) understanding the Nationalists weren’t strictly Christians, but were definitely supported by several different Christian factions which were vying for power. It’s probably a lot more nuanced than that, and I’m just a stupid American with basically zero real knowledge of the Spanish Civil War.

      Also, Christian anarchists actually aren’t that unusual. Chris Hedges, for example, is a modern one. If I recall correctly, it’s the argument that the only real Kingdom is the Kingdom of Heaven, and as such, human society should be completely non-hierarchical because we’re all sinners. Which like, I don’t believe in it, but I can vibe with that.

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        I’m an anti-authoritarian Christian, years ago I considered myself an anarchist but not now. My take is that the kingdom of heaven isn’t at all the only kingdom, but rather the only eternal kingdom. There is real authority on earth but it should be used to lift people up and free people from bondage. But also there is no shortage of evil and oppression around, that is reality.

        I think most Christians want good peaceful lives for all people but the misinformation, indoctrination, gaslighting, strawmanning and such give many of them terrible views on how to work towards that goal.

        I think most governments are bloated and ineffective, self-serving and corrupt. Historically the best government is a good king who really cares for his people. But there have been very few of them and since most people with too much power are corrupted by it, I understand building in layers of accountability. We need to ensure that one of those doorstops for abuse is the every-man.

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    Is this promoting suicide? She’s probably going to die if she joins the war in Spain. Should we cancel Existential Comics for promoting suicide?

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        I don’t think atheism is central to anarchism. Opposition to religion (in its institutional and hierarchical form) is, but not belief in a higher being per se.

        Anarchism can make Christianity non-authoritarian, and Christianity can teach anarchism how to be spiritual. Of course nor anarchism nor Christianity need each other, but I like how they complete each other.

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          You can certainly hamfist Christianity into supporting whatever political opinion you want, as is Christian tradition.

          Generally I don’t like supernatural beliefs and the idea of a god makes me throw up but you do you.

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            Please ignore me if you think my question is uncalled-for, but your answer surprises me. I get agnosticism and atheism from a philosophical point of view, even if philosophically I stand in the theist side. I get the feeling of disgust when one studies history and actuality of religions, even if I think it’s kind of a limited, one-sided view. But disgust for the mere idea of the existence of God seems… a bit extreme. What did you mean?

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              If there is a god it’s malevolent or indifference to humanity.

              Either way it’s not worth worshipping.

              Plus as I mentioned before, I hate supernatural thinking, and I find it harder to trust in people who base their beliefs on the supernatural.

              You never know when some random piece of scripture short circuits the brain of an otherwise reasonable person into thinking abortion is evil or that LGBT people are the antichrist.

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          Not to mention quakers often gave communists spaces to organise in and hold meetings.

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          There have been Christian anarchists. Jacques Ellul comes to mind. His book on propaganda is pretty good.

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            Yeah I like him, even if he had bad stances on some subjects (like Israel or abortion). He’s too much on the evangelical side to me, even if he was not an actual evangelical. But was right on sooooo much subjects!

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              I never got in to deep on his personal stances on certain issues, I thought the book propaganda was good though. I think lots of thinkers of his time had bad stances on Isreal though.

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                I think lots of thinkers of his time had bad stances on Isreal though.

                I mean its a fairly consistent view on utopian socialists (anarchists included), its social imperialism.

                Kibbutz are the wet dream of utopian socialists, small self-organized enclaves built on stolen land and, of course, subsidized, what’s not to like for the average western leftist! The genocide and displacement of the indigenous peopoe is handled by others so you get to feel morally good too.