~20 hours ago I wrote…

I’m really shocked they didn’t cave [within the first week or two]. I was nearly 100% certain they would.

I’ll work on my Nostradamus more.

  • InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.netOP
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    I seriously don’t know what “snippy” means to the average lib. Is it something like…

    “Senator Schumer - I’m tempted to use the f-bomb in this message. It illustrates how deeply disappointed I am in you. Furthermore I am crestfallen that…”

    i’m 50-50 on whether that person in particular thinks chuck will personally listen to the messages

    I think the average phone call lib knows Schumer won’t ever actually hear them. Yet they cling to some kind of phone call cargo cult thing where if enough people like them make phone calls - the senators will hear them. It’s like “Field of Dreams” I guess.

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      Yet they cling to some kind of phone call cargo cult thing where if enough people like them make phone calls - the senators will hear them. It’s like “Field of Dreams” I guess.

      a fuckload of phone calls and physical mail does make a difference if they start doing the math and get worried about not having votes when they want to get re-elected, it’s just really hard to actually get that much political engagement from burgerlanders in a non-election year. it’s a little cargo-culty but it’s not as feckless as the no kings shit.

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        By having the vote on Sunday - Schumer made phone calls 100% irrelevant. But I guess if panicked dem voters had been calling for weeks - maybe that would slightly worry the DC dems. In this bifurcated sportsball reality - I don’t think the DC dems care very much about angry voters.

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            mmmm sopapilla

            is there anything that says letters and calls specifically influenced decisions? I would have thought the physical protests and even the wikipedia blackout would be much larger factors

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              i’m not sure how possible to know that is. i do know that liberal in-person protesting has never accomplished anything without a lingering threat of violence, and that the dinosaurs in congress don’t know what wikipedia or the internet are.

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                Yeah I guess actual hard evidence wouldn’t exsist I was thinking like a statement from a politician like ‘the amount of calls my office received from citizens on X issue made me revaluate my stance on it’

                Err are you saying calls and letters are only effective if the include threats of violence?

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                  Err are you saying calls and letters are only effective if the include threats of violence?

                  no i mean like why the 1960s civil rights movement worked (for a few decades anyway) but shit like no kings, occupy wallstreet, or the 2000s anti-war protests in the US didn’t do anything

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      This is why when calling your legislators, it’s always important to start off the voicemail message with the magic words: “I know where you live and I have seen where you sleep”