• Veedem@lemmy.world
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    By annual ridership, the New York City Subway is the busiest rapid transit system in both the Western Hemisphere and the Western world, as well as the eleventh-busiest rapid transit rail system in the world.[18] The subway carried 1,793,073,000 riders in 2022.[6]: 2 [note 5] On October 29, 2015, more than 6.2 million people rode the subway system, establishing the highest single-day ridership since ridership was regularly monitored in 1985.[20]

    The system is also one of the world’s longest. Overall, the system contains 248 miles (399 km) of routes,[10] translating into 665 miles (1,070 km) of revenue track[10] and a total of 850 miles (1,370 km) including non-revenue trackage.[11] Of the system’s 28 routes or “services” (which usually share track or “lines” with other services), 25 pass through Manhattan, the exceptions being the G train, the Franklin Avenue Shuttle, and the Rockaway Park Shuttle.

    The NYC system was built a century ago and operates at an astonishing level considering its for one city and is so relatively inexpensive.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Subway#:~:text=By annual ridership%2C the New,carried 1%2C793%2C073%2C000 riders in 2022.

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      And this appears to be a shot of a closed station that appears to be lit by flashlight - my guess is someone urbexing an abandoned station. There are quite a few stations in NYC that have been closed in the past century and aren’t well maintained. Some are still passed by active trains even though there’s no longer a stop there.

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      The issue isn’t the presence of a subway system, but rather the need for more funding, care and attention.

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      Agreed. We are lucky to have that. Also I’m pretty sure that the photos were chosen to show off the worse of the US subway system in NYC. I remember riding it once and thought it was pretty clean.

      I guarantee that someone could do the same for the other subway systems if they should choose too.

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    In all of Vietnam there are currently two active metro lines, one of which is only partially complete.

    I hope it improves. Many lines are under construction but all of the projects have been plagued by delays for years.

    But why would you include this as an example here?

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    make better agi prop, the US has the most gorgeous metro system in the world. Facts dont care about your feelings. (If you dont like brutalist architecture you probably wont like it and I’m sorry)

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        In case anyone is wondering, that’s Komsomolskaya station, built in 1952. Later stations tended to not be so opulent.

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            I think I owe you an apology. I took your initial comment as you trying to insult me, given our past interactions. Not that I wasn’t giving an honest opinion on the design itself, but otherwise I would have just kept it to myself.

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            That’s not opulent, that’s just bad taste. The other one was absolutely beautiful.

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                None of the design elements work with each other, to start with. Then it’s like after the fact, some shmuck from the propaganda office told the architects to stick a stupid looking fighter jet in there. It’s like a weak man’s idea of a strong design.

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                  I’ve never read a more sour comment in my life. Thanks for letting me know how much you’re seething and coping there.

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        Feels a little bougie if you ask me, but to each their own.

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          Funny you’d say that, because even though the first plans for it date back to the Russian Empire, it was the communists under Stalin who actually built it.

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      Yeah. DC has some very pretty metro stations. NYC has SO MANY stops in Manhattan it was silly when visiting.

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      I distinctly remember having to stop and admire the station the first time I went through there.

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      This metro system doesn’t have enough parallel track to allow for night time operation or maintenance.

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    Having worked for the MTA on the subway system years back, I invite you all to remember that we built one of the very first subway systems in the world, definitely first in scale, knowing we’d make mistakes in implementation, along with a lot of successful ideas.

    Everyone else learns from our mistakes, we gladly hosted the engineering team from Los Angeles and Bangkok when they wanted to share notes with us.

    With almost 200miles/320km of public tracks, this is easily the most successful mass transit system internationally. "BuT gWaFiTi BaD :( "

    Give it a rest, posers.

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        Hi friend, please reread and note the caveat, “one of the very first”, which position number 5 certainly includes.

        Also, a bit childish to want to rank systems based on creation date. If you feel like “losing”, please read on:

        • NYC total system length is about 800 miles (1.1km)
        • yearly ridership: 1.8bn rides
        • If we count the el’s (elevated rapid transit, which is still running), first ride was in iirc 1868.

        But look, the important thing is that both our countries (presuming you live in the UK) have nice mass transit systems to keep cars off the roads. I look forward to visiting your country and riding its underground system at some point.

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          When somebody says one of the first it implies by time (and US was 30 years later. ) Thus why that link I posted rates them by creation date. If you had claimed by best subway by milage I would link to which one ranks them by order of mileage. If I feel like losing. LOL It isn’t a zero sum game we are playing, Just facts I linked. Sorry you feel so offended. Hope you have a good new year.

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            Most people wouldn’t respond to the question, “who was here first?” with “how much time has passed since you got here?”. Right?

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              Yeah, by saying first it would mislead people into thinking USA were pioneers, but they were actually fifth because it took USA longer to institute. Not judging, just saying…and it makes sense because UK has been a country with cities for thousands of years, while USA is relatively new…with a slower need to get people moved

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          The dates on that list skip over the countries from other web links of same data. maybe somebody forgot to add the others to this data

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      One could make a similar post of a clean American city and European cities with graffiti everywhere.

      Most all major cities have graffiti. I will say that I’m pretty surprised at the number of EU cities that have massive graffiti everywhere. The US has issues, but a lot of larger graffiti is limited to poorer, less-traveled or more inaccessible areas. EU? Huge graffiti right across shop fronts roll-down shutters on the Main Street. Surprising.

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        France is a shit hole compared to most US cities, and I’m VERY well traveled. Spain? Absolutely the opposite. Cleanest cities I’ve ever seen and some of the nicest architecture too.

        This crap isn’t a monolith, and the US has plenty of good mass transportation systems.

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          I’ve been to parts of Spain that have graffiti. Barcelona has plenty, Madrid is spotless - of course that depends on the part of town, too.

          The point was that you can arrange pictures to look like whatever you want most of the time, not to actually criticize any one country.

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    Bad meme, id you want to dunk on the US find a better angle than obvious propaganda.

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    Honestly, I care less about how a subway station looks than how the system itself works and its coverage. Unfortunately the US has neither. If we want to fix one thing, its function and coverage, not aesthetic.

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      I’m with OP on the being had in the first half. Though I’d add, with a little bit of added effort, you can fix both. The fact that the US can do neither is, in my book, a failure of policy.

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        St. Petersburg’s and Moscow’s old stations were built to show off superiority of communist state. That’s where you can see lots of polished stone, sculptures, giant golden light fixtures, stained glass, etc. Focus was not on the people. Then starting around 1970s the stations were built with much more utilitarian design. Modern stations built in Moscow in last decade or so look very nice though.

        NYC subway is just gross. I guess they are seriously underfunded to afford proper cleaning and renovation

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        They also use the Imperial system, because of the British occupation in the past.

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    NYC subway isn’t that bad, yeah it’s not mind blowing but it works and when you need to commute that’s all that matters

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      I would contest that it is mind-blowing.

      I may be biased since I live in the city, but being able to get damn near anywhere (that’s not Staten Island, but fuck Staten Island) for the price of a bag of chips is pretty cool.

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        That’s what I meant, you won’t find grand architecture or fancy stations but you can get anywhere (I also live in the city)