I’m not even American, so it doesn’t affect me directly, but I am scared to death of a Trump presidency.

I am one of those people here who think that Biden is a far more competent executor of imperialist policies compared to Trump, but what I am even more afraid of is the early death of nascent left wing movements in America.

I am reminded of how the KPD getting its leaders murdered by Freikorps thugs during the Spartacist uprising (mind you, a much stronger party than any leftist movement in America today), and how its continued suppression paved the way to Nazi Germany.

Project 2025 will effectively embolden fascist thugs in America to do the same to the left wing movements, many of which are still in their cradle, and the death of leftist movements in their infancies will inevitably pave the way to a fascist America and undo many of the progress that had been made over decades.

The world cannot afford a fascist America. Imagine Hitler with nukes. The world will have to pay a much, much larger price as a result.

On this reasoning alone, I believe that Trump needs to be stopped at all cost. But many here have disagreed with me, and I need you to persuade me why I shouldn’t be afraid of Project 2025 at all. Even if the chance of that happening is 10%, I’m still not ready to gamble with it.

(I’m not saying we have to support Biden, I believe it is somewhat inevitable, I’m saying that we have to buy ourselves as much time as possible, even if it means strategic voting, to build a resilient leftist movement while delaying the inevitable for as long as we can.)

  • aaro [they/them, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    19·
    6 months ago

    Things Project 2025 wants to see that we will definitely not see under Biden:

    • Dismantle the EPA and NOAA
    • Invoke the insurrection act to punish anyone who called Jan 6th an attempted coup
    • Dismantle the department of education
    • classify those who talk about being transgender as child sex offenders
    • Fire the entire FDA and replace them with people handpicked to ban mifepristone and misoprostol
    • Raise the bottom income tax bracket from 10% to 15%, lower the top income tax bracket from 37% to 30%, lower the corporate tax rate from 21% to 18%
    • Rescind gender identity, sexual orientation, and sex as protected classes
    • “the largest domestic deportation operation in history” (yikes)
    • implement unitary executive theory

    That’s just an assortment, it’s not all and it’s not the worst things. It’s just a little different from blue MAGA.

    • betelgeuse [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      56·
      6 months ago

      Dismantle the department of education

      Yeah this already happened. It’s been happening. Just because there’s a building and a title in an organizational structure, doesn’t mean it’s not dismantled. Joe has done his part to help dismantle it during his term by being awful on covid.

      Rescind gender identity, sexual orientation, and sex as protected classes

      What is he doing to stop the next admin from being able to do this? If the answer is not enough then he is doing it.

      the largest domestic deportation operation in history"

      No he just tried to out-flank Republicans on immigration by continuing their rhetoric and increasing detention and bolstering “border security” while letting Texas maim immigrants with traps. All the stuff that only helps the next Republican president.

      I hate to be rude and I don’t do it often but some of you really misunderstand power and how lack of action helps further oppression. Any time elections come around, you pop up and start being very concerned and adamantly argue why Democrats are slightly better than Republicans. It’s like having two pistons on a crank shaft and telling everyone that one piston isn’t moving the car as much as the other, so if we want to apply brakes, we need more pistons like that one. The bad stuff is happening all the time, constantly, and without stopping. The bad stuff is a conclusion to this form of social organization, not having the wrong people in power for 4 years. It was happening when we had FDR, JFK, Carter, Clinton and Obama. It didn’t stop during those presidencies. They were all contributors. They all kept it going. Trump is a result of what they did or didn’t do.

      I don’t know why we have to go through this every election cycle.

      • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        12·
        6 months ago

        I hate to be rude and I don’t do it often but some of you really misunderstand power and how lack of action helps further oppression. Any time elections come around, you pop up and start being very concerned and adamantly argue why Democrats are slightly better than Republicans. It’s like having two pistons on a crank shaft and telling everyone that one piston isn’t moving the car as much as the other, so if we want to apply brakes, we need more pistons like that one. The bad stuff is happening all the time, constantly, and without stopping. The bad stuff is a conclusion to this form of social organization, not having the wrong people in power for 4 years. It was happening when we had FDR, JFK, Carter, Clinton and Obama. It didn’t stop during those presidencies. They were all contributors. They all kept it going. Trump is a result of what they did or didn’t do.

        mfw police departments receive massive funding under Biden