We’ve seen an uptick in people posting dunks in here that belong in dunk_tank, as well as low-hanging fruit that gets removed from or isn’t allowed in dunk_tank anymore. For context, rule 8 of dunk_tank:
Rule 8: The subject of a post cannot be low hanging fruit, that is comments/posts made by a private person that have low amount of upvotes/likes/views. Comments/Posts made on other instances that are accessible from hexbear are an exception to this.
There’s a reason that dunks are cordoned off to their own comm, some users rightfully don’t want to see reactionary nonsense all the time, even if we’re making fun of the person who said it. /c/cth is a general-purpose comm but it’s NOT for posting some random nobody asshole twitter user’s bad takes, the absolute best course of action to take when you see that stuff out in the wild is to either directly shit on them yourself, or ignore them and don’t give them more attention.
From this point on I’m going to be more stringent about moderating this. I get it, it’s fun to dunk on the libs and the blue checks and the and that’s why we have a whole dedicated comm for that. Any post that’s obviously meant to be “hey look at this piece of shit, let’s laugh at how bad their opinions are, upbears to the left and emojis in chat” belongs in the_dunk_tank. And any super low-hanging fruit doesn’t belong on this site, period (see TDT rule 8 above). We have better things to do with our time than give unearned attention, time and energy to low-follower-count nobodies yelling into the void.
Thanks for your discretion comrades, stay sicko
edit: as others have pointed out, /c/shitreactionariessay@lemmygrad.ml is a good place for any and all dunking content not allowed here. Post that ragebait to our comrades at the 'grad, they’ll make good use of it. Also, per rule 9 of TFT dunking on fediverse users is still explicitly allowed so it’s still open season on those in our own backyard.
Got it posting them in badposting from now on
We are making a really good user experience here folks
experience deez nuts
So there’s a type of post that people enjoy posting and engaging with, and a dedicated place to post that type of post. Then you make a rule that that type of post is no longer allowed in that dedicated place, so people naturally post it outside the dedicated place.
Just revert this shitty rule change and the “problem” will be solved
Noooo but I don’t enjoy seeing those posts! I have better things to do!
I support the mods 100% on this decision.
There is effectively an infinite supply of horrible people and horrible takes whereas your time and energy is limited.
I am somebody who lives in an almost constant state of rage and I think that this is the only normal reaction to the hellworld in which we currently live. But that’s not a healthy way to live so I try to limit my exposure to the stuff that gives me psychic damage.
That’s why I blocked the dunk tank - I enjoy dunking on bad people and bad takes as much as everyone but being exposed to a constant stream of that every day is not a great use of your time and energy.
This is an entirely predictable result of the addition of the bad rule 8 to the_dunk_tank
The purpose of this comm is literally to quarantine all of the “finding an idiot to get mad at” posts. This rule change is gonna make the rest of the site worse.
-ElGosso, 30 days ago on the dunk tank rule change post. Hm. Must be a psychic. Only explanation.
I called it too and asked for a quarantine zone for those kinda posts but was denied. LET US HAVE OUR SLOP
This conviction the mods seem to have that “[dunking on] super low-hanging fruit doesn’t belong on this site, period” is weird and bad
Also “low hanging fruit” are posts not a lot of people have seen, while I guess the “high effort dunks” are posting whatever garbage Elon and jk have been up to because they have more views. Seems backwards to me :shrug-outta-hecks:
“I saw this and now you have to see this too” is not a good reason for posting. People don’t need to see every bad take on the internet.
not a good reason for posting
i didn’t need a reason to keep posting
“I saw this, thought it was a funny bad take, and am now sharing with other people who will laugh at this fool” is usually my thought. I imagine the same is true for other dunk tank posters?
now you have to see this too
No one actually has to view the dunk tank. They can block it, scroll by, whatever. I scroll past a lot of posts. Hextube gets pinned all the time, but is of no relevance to me. Other comms I’ve blocked all together 🤷
That’s why there was a whole comm for it
The comm for that is now https://hexbear.net/c/shitreactionariessay@lemmygrad.ml
So a popular type of post many hexbear users like is no longer allowed on Hexbear at all? Why?
Yeah, but it should cool off after a while. I’m sure that now both comms are going after the low hanging fruit posts the posts will just wean off.
What is wrong with low hanging fruit anyway
It’s not like making fun of reactionary losers is important work or anything
They belong better in some of the Lemmygrad lib showcase comms. I’ve seen too many posts on here and /r/trueanon that are just random nobodies saying deranged things 4 years ago. I don’t mind it too much and it’s ultimately not dissimilar from the approved posts, but it’s extremely reddit energy to be dunking on low hanging fruit from trolls.
So ignore them and let them settle to the bottom of the pile with all the other poor engagement posts
So, what you’re saying is to defeat bad posts in the marketplace of ideas, rather than to use political power to do so?
Why do we have to “defeat” bad posts at all? Hexbear is a site where a significant portion of the posts are bad on purpose. We have an entire comm dedicated to posting the worst posts we can come up with. Title: I farded, body: hehe is a completely valid Hexbear post. In fact, it’s probably been posted multiple times already.
We should be “defeating” posts that are racist, ableist, transphobic, liberal, etc. We shouldn’t be “defeating” posts that are bad, that’s what this site is for
I literally just made a joke, but go off I guess.
I think a new sub should be made. I like the change, and I’ve appreciated the change in content from random weirdos to more high profile figures. However, random weirdos are funny sometimes, and for that reason I think there should be a sub called /lowhangingfruit or something specifically for it.
I can’t find an explanation for why another community on hexbear can’t just be made for these “low hanging fruit” posts and cordoned off. Was there anywhere where it was stated why this is considered something that shouldn’t be allowed on hexbear at all? Is the “We have better things to do with our time” part of this post all there is?
A link would be greatly appreciated, I’m bad at finding things.
Honestly it’s an unhealthy and antisocial behavior and I’m glad we’re getting rid of it. If you need to hatesturbate over something, make it something that matters even a little bit rather than some random person who said something stupid.
I wish you the best of luck in finding any reason. A mod was here running corporate-style PR for a while, and I replied to them asking variations of “why has this rule change been made” like 10 times and they replied to one of the comments with essentially “because the mods said so”