I need this mysterious “rock expanding” technology.
yeah, because the only way that brown people could have built anything impressive is if gods/aliens helped them.
Notice how these people never call into question the coliseum or the parthenon? It’s just thinly veiled racism.
I like to remind people that the heaviest stones for the pyramids were about 400 tons while a few thousand years later in Lebanon the largest stones for the temple complex in Baalbek are about 1250 tons.
But no one questions that the construction there
I think many of the people who push this aren’t overtly racist, but there is no question that the source of all of this, Madame Blavatsky, was just a racist.
I don’t that’s because of racism… The racism is that many people think Egyptians were white… Search for it online and you’ll find many depictions where they at most have a light tan.
People have said the same things about stonehenge
exception. there’s a huge trend toward alien theories about human achievement based on geography. you can bet your ass even if something like the colosseum was in central africa people would be saying it’s alien tech.
The colloseum was built in a time and place with written records. The pyramids were not. Same for any other massive structures that get the “aliens built it” treatment. Even Mayan architecture, which comes from a time and place with written records, only got this treatment because Mayan hieroglyphs were unintelligble to most folks, including the people in the region itself.
Buddy, the pyramids are literally covered in written records. 's what heiroglyphs are.
From the very first google result
Contrary to what one might expect, there are no hieroglyphic texts, treasures, or mummies in any of pyramids of Giza. Decoration inside pyramids began several centuries after those of Khufu, Khafre, and Menkaure were constructed
While lacking the panache of Abu Simbel or Karnak, there were written records in the Great pyramids. Mostly work graffiti and seals, as far as I can learn, but that would count.
Good to learn about the decorative drive growing as the Kingdoms aged, though.
Funilly enough:
Cheddar Man: DNA shows early Briton had dark skin
“A cutting-edge scientific analysis” theories about stone henge being built by aliens go back at least 100 years.
That makes sense, the total lack of sun means they lost the use of dark skin genes, or maybe they were cursed by God and cast out on the island, you never know
Everyone had dark skin that long ago.
And virtually no other European ancient site. Stonehenge is usually the lone exception.
Malta
…is an island?
with megaliths that have been explained by aliens. As an aside, there are simply far fewer impressive prehistoric structures in Europe compared to the the Near East, India and other placed closer to the center of the agricultural revolution which rpedate written records. Those that do exist have all been explained by aliens at one point or another.
with megaliths that have been explained by aliens.
On a regular basis? Hardly. And also only recently.
And that, of course, ignores the fact that this whole aliens/Atlanteans built all the ancient monuments comes from an extremely racist source, even if the people spreading it now are not racists:
I don’t know what you mean by “a regular basis” but here is a recent attempt to explain maltese megaliths with aliens https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27133303/
Yes, it’s disbelief based on lack of sources, more than anything.
Lack of sources? We have tons of fucking sources. We know a LOT about the pyramids and have explicit writings about them from the times many of them were built. The (rich) Ancient Egyptians were very relatively recent and well-documented.
Aliens just didn’t like white people.
It is amazing to me how these people call the ancient Egyptians primitive.
Although they may be considered primitive by today’s technological standards, they were very, very smart and accomplished tremendous things with very little resource.
They were not primitive intellectually. They were smart, capable and intelligent people.
Two more points I’d like to address about the cutting of these rocks number one archaeologists replicated the way these rocks would be cut with technology they would have during the time that these rocks were cut. Number two. They would drag the rocks. They dragged the rocks.
Oh, and constructions like the Great pyramids would often take generations to complete and these weren’t done in a couple of years these things took decades if not more.
They had the exact same brains we do. Something people like this seem to not understand.
TBF, the ancient Egyptians would probably also not understand that.
Well yeah, those guys thought our hearts were our brains, but they weren’t claiming it was beyond their abilities to build a pyramid.
Did the aliens not have time travel?
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The brain evolved like everything else. There has not been enough time for evolution to change the structure and size of our brains.
Furthermore, IQ is a measurement of the ability to take IQ tests. An indigenous Amazonian might be the smartest person in the world but will fail practically every IQ test you can give them.
IQ suggests there is only one sort of intelligence, which is nonsense and easily disproven by autistic people who have great difficulty achieving tasks by people determined to be of average intelligence but are able to do mathematics at a level that the average person couldn’t even comprehend.
Kim Peek had a tested IQ of 87.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-superhuman-mind/201212/kim-peek-the-real-rain-man
He could read both pages of an open book at once, one page with one eye and the other with the other eye. This style of reading continued until his death in 2009. His reading comprehension was impressive. He would retain 98 percent of the information he read. Since he spent most of his days in the library with his dad, he quickly made it through thousands of books, encyclopedias, and maps. He could read a thick book in an hour and remember just about anything in it.
Because he could quickly absorb loads of information and recall it when necessary, his condition made him a living encyclopedia and a walking GPS. He could provide driving directions between almost any two cities in the world. He could also do calendar calculations (“Which day was June 15, 1632?”) and remember old baseball scores and a vast amount of musical, historical, and political facts. His memory abilities were astounding.
How does IQ make any sense as an accurate measurement of intelligence in the face of people like Kim Peek?
Also, I have no idea why you think ‘training’ a brain would be any different now than it was 5000 years ago. That just means keeping your thinking skills active.
This is not on the scale of evolution but about mental tools and training, limited to ones lifetime. For example, did ancient egyptians know the concept of “zero”? And there are plenty of examples of neglected children (especially in china because one-child policy) being dumber on the verge to being disabled – because they lacked stimmulation, mental training.
Yes, IQ is limited as measurement, still an indicator.
Kim peek was likely a Savant, different issue.
Why do you have to know the existence of zero to do mental training? What does mental training have to do with numbers? I am betting that indigenous Amazonian I brought up, spending all of his life hunting, does constant mental training out of necessity.
Do you ever think about looking into things before you decide you need to insist publicly they work this way?
They weren’t primative, the Greek and Egyptian civilizations, some of the very first civilizations that existed, developed and exchanged technology, art, and information that we still use to this day. Western civilization wouldn’t exist without them.
Their world was just as complex for them to survive in as ours is, and maybe more so. They came up with ideas and solutions to problems and their thinking gave us that tech we have today.
If these people had the same brains as we do, we’d not be here right now.
To all downvoting: whooosh!
What are you talking about? There has not been anywhere near enough time for evolution to change our brains significantly from theirs.
My best guess is they mean ours are full of lead and micro plastics and propaganda.
Although they may be considered primitive by today’s technological standards, they were very, very smart and accomplished tremendous things with very little resource.
They were not primitive intellectually. They were smart, capable and intelligent people.
This is exactly the point many people don’t understand: People in the past were not less intelligent than today’s people.
We developed more ways to discover stuff and more precise tools to measure and detect things and of course with computers we got the ability to handle extremely complex data. All of this gives us an edge over past people science wise but we had very capable thinkers 200, 600 and 4000 years ago. All basic principles of mathematics have been developed a long time ago.
The pithy version of that is that we know more things than our ancestors, but we’re not smarter than them.
They also see something like an expertly-knapped flint hand axe and think “I could do that in my back yard in five minutes” because they don’t understand that something that looks primitive might actually be a really useful tool and actually not easy to make.
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This is why I have a hard time taking anyone seriously who calls any human society, past or present, “primitive.”
Also the current theory is, get ready for it…they used boats. They flooded the area the Pyramids were being built and just floated them in on barges. With water.
‘Beyond human thinking’ my ass.
They flooded the area the Pyramids were being built
I don’t think that’s “the current theory”.
I think you might be talking about digging canals. It’s conceivable that a canal would be built to take the rocks to the construction site. Just recently however we’ve found evidence of a tributary of the nile that flowed past the sites of a number of pyramids.
I’ve read tributary as trebuchet first and was equally impressed and confused for a moment.
Just launching them to the top with extreme precision so they land right into their spot.
They weren’t super smart, they simply had an infinite supply of slaves.
The “slaves built the Pyramids” thing has been pretty well-debunked by anthropologists and archaeologists, who both agree that something as monumental as building the vehicle of the Pharaoh’s ascent to the afterlife would not have been something Egypt would’ve forced slaves to labor on. Aside from the obvious chances of revolt, there’s a lot of religious reasons, and many agree that it was likely seen as a GREAT honor - backed up by inscriptions of the masons that worked the stone (found in some reliefs), or painters, etc. It’s not unlikely that they used slave labor to quarry and transport the stones to the building site, but not to actually physically haul and build things AT the site.
As you said yourself - they used slaves for the hardest work while free and proud people did the painting.
That’s not what they said.
It’s not unlikely that they used slave labor to quarry and transport the stones to the building site
Do you have problems understanding the English language?
No.
Yes, yes you do.
These people think we are all as stupid as them.
“wElL I cAn’T eXPlain tHis aND theSE prIMItIve brOwN fOlk sUreLY ain’t SmArtR tHen mE so it MuSt be aLeEyUns”
These people think they can travel back in time and are some kind of god.
Behold, i’m the man of the future. We have computers.
What’s a computer? How do you make it?
Uuhm, get a rock and make him think, i don’t know man.
I think I would do okay, but that’s because I had a watch fascination when I was in school. Big thing that revolutionized navigation was stable clocks that could work on a boat. Depends on how far back you go really.
Ok, I’ll go first… Who the fuck says 2 million and 300 thousand? Either say 2.3 million, or 2 300 000 or even two million and three hundred thousand. Fuck it, even two point three million would work. But 2 million and 300 thousand? You’re the fucking alien dammit!
2 million as well as 300 thousand
probably the same people that use 13 hundred instead of 1300
Not only were humans not able to stack rocks, they didn’t stack rocks in every continent that still stand to this day
I’m glad the size of bricks has been reduced. A wheelbarrow is useless here.
Yeah, but they don’t pay you in beer now, so I’d call it a wash.
A wheelbarrow is useless here.
Just get a bigger wheelbarrow, easy.
Listen!
So you smell something?
How did the aliens manage to make that when they could have spent all their time on the internet, or watching movies, playing video games, porn, going to concerts, driving cars, taking flights on airplanes, etc whatever.
It’s obvious humans could never make something as advanced as a giant …rock.
Imagine how much more video games and porn you could consume if you just had two more arms and hands?
Ok fine. You just sold me on what’s possible in the future.
I’m not so sure we have the brain capacity for putting one thing on top of another thing.
Oh damn it, I should have put that in the body of my post. I could have made a Ghostbusters reference and a Monty Python reference in a single post.
as a compositor, that is literally my entire job.
I don’t believe that for one second.
But I’ll be honest, I was thinking about cookies when I saw your reply.
What’s going on?
where’s the guy with the crazy hair
He couldn’t make it as he had a prior reservation for an anal probing session
Are they free or do you need a coupon ?
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