The United States has announced the approval of the sale of more than $7.4bn in bombs, missiles and related equipment to Israel, which has used American-made weapons to devastating effect during the war in Gaza.

The state department has signed off on the sale of $6.75bn in bombs, guidance kits and fuses, in addition to $660m in Hellfire missiles, according to the US Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA).

The proposed sale of the bombs “improves Israel’s capability to meet current and future threats, strengthen its homeland defense, and serves as a deterrent to regional threats”, the DSCA said in a statement.

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    B…b…but the Democrats are genociders so I didn’t vote or voted 3rd party to help the Palestinians.

    Did I help? Did I help them? Does this help them?

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      None of the votes during this past election would have helped Palestine. That’s the point. You gotta think long term. Dems and Reps suck.

      Our two party, single vote system isn’t working for the people and they want you to believe it is. Control your politicians. Don’t let them control you.

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        For the US, sure.

        Letting in the Tangerine Mussolini means there won’t be a Palestine by the end of his term.

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          With the Democrats under the control of the DNC neither. Remember how the US built an “aid pier” for hundreds of millions that never delivered aid, but instead a beachhead for an Israeli assault disguised as humanitarian aid?

          Now with Trump people are forced to confront the empire and maybe resist it from within, which also helps those outside of it. In the same wake other countries like in Europe will have to confront the fact that the US was never their friend, but just gave more considerations to the appearance of mutual respect and sovereignity on the outside.

          The US empire has made it clear under Biden already, that there will be no peace in the Middle East, as long as the empire can prevent it. The only route to peace is dismantling the empire and replacing it with a normal country.

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            Neither of those things will happen, the US will turn into an autocratic state and Palestine will be erased. Then they will expand to Greater Israel with US troops.

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      While I don’t disagree, I feel like we need to talk more about how disconnected the Democratic Party is from what their base actually wants. Them being diet republicans ain’t cutting it

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        I feel like we need to talk more about how disconnected the Democratic Party is from what their base actually wants

        Did you feel this need before the election too? Because a lot of people did and that is who we’re talking about here.

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        True. But at the same time you’re not going to get any of that by not voting and letting Republicans get elected. I mean get you butts out there and primary these centrist lead weights.

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        Doesnt this boil down to the usual “the left falls in love, while the right falls in line”? hard to fall in love with your alliy’s ongoing war crimes and lefties are renowed for not falling in line even against their best interests. Makes it hard to win as an incumbent, though, how did Obama win reelection, he wouldn’t have been mistaken for a saint the second time round.

        PS: got it, it’s because Romney still couldn’t make the right fall in line hard enough comparing with the love for Obama.

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          Democrats lost because they didn’t embrace populist rhetoric.

          If they just ran someone like Bernie they could have won. People are tired of the status quo and they thought Trump would be a way out of it. All democrats run on is “we’ll keep things the same”.

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      There was one shot at helping the people of Palestine, that was the Democrats.

      They refused to listen to voters and instead took in billions of lobbying from Zionists.

      The only blame lies solely on Kamala and her greed. Imagine thinking stopping Trump was less important than making money.

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        I wonder if you will keep rehashing the election even as people are being loaded into boxcars?

        “I told you trans people to vote third party, but you had to vote for Kamala, didn’t you? Bye-bye!”

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          The Democrats seemed quite fine with risking Trans people to be loaded into boxcars. Also many people immediately lasged out at ethnic minorities and queer people for not supporting the Democrats as strongly.

          For the DNC they only got some considerations, when they were useful for power. Now that they didnt grant it, they got tossed aside.

          Case in point all the D-Representatives now helping to vote Trump officials into elected government positions.

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            I guess the answer is yes, you will keep rehashing the election even as people are being loaded into boxcars.

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              I think the way forward is to get away from both Republicans and Democrats and bring people into power, who are not part of either. Going back to the Democrats is not going to make things better again. Another example for that is the migration and deportation policies of Biden, which were mostly a continuation of Trumps policies.

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              Dont ever talk to me again I hate you i hate you I just wanted to be friends with you And you made fun of me Also im sorry, i said that about u jews and im sorry Dont make fun of me meanie 😡

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      Who was president when Israel flattened Gaza? Who sent them the weapons to do it? Why do you excuse Biden and the Democrats role in the genocide just because Trump is worse?

      The Harris campaign purposefully ignored anyone asking about Gaza.

      “We also didn’t create a new category for Gaza responses out of fear that category would be leaked. Instead we were told to mark them as ‘no response,’” the organizer said, faulting top Harris campaign leaders for failing to address the issue. “The only ‘clowns’ out there are those who were in senior leadership and decided to abdicate on this issue, who silenced a Palestinian speaker at the DNC, and who told us to ignore it every time a voter asked us about Gaza.”

      I am increasingly disgusted by liberals. I am never voting Democrat again, it is past Biden or Harris being bad, it is the entire base that is genocidal except with polite rhetoric.

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        Who is president while Native Americans and Puerto Ricans are being arrested by ICE and threatened with deportation?

        Who is president while America gives up on every single climate goal?

        Who is president while Elon Musk’s people have been given total access to U.S. finances without any sort of security clearances?

        I could go on, but I won’t, because you are acting like the election was some sort of referendum on Israel. And all I can say to that is that I hope you have the white privilege to not be affected by this at the level of anyone who’s skin is a darker shade of peach and the cisgender, heterosexual privilege as well.

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        Excuse is a different thing altogether than a vote. One is a state of mind. The other impacts who is president and brings that administrations actions into reality. Anyone who did not vote Democrat is responsible for the net difference in those outcomes. A vote is not a protest.

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    Good on the AFP for being willing to put the critical context in the headline instead of just trying to present bland data.

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    So the same as Biden but liberals have a selective memory.

    Here’s a few articles to remind the intentionally forgetful liberals:

    March 2024 U.S. sends more weapons to Israel amid growing calls for cease-fire

    June 2024 US has sent Israel thousands of 2,000-pound bombs since Oct. 7

    Anyways keep going mask off. Good luck getting any of us to vote Democratic ever again. It is clearly isn’t just a few Democratic politicians who are bad, it is the entire party base that’s a basket of deplorables to quote a prominent Democrat.

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      So let’s say this issue is a push… Now how about EVERY OTHER FUCKING THING HAPPENING?

      STOP trying to draw a false equivalency between the two paths we had available to us.

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        You will not find a more peaceful and just society on the paths presented by the oligarchy.

        You will have to remove both machinations of the oligarchy from power.

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      So the same as Biden but liberals have a selective memory.

      Then I guess there should have been other reasons to stop Trump from getting into office.

      Good luck getting any of us to vote Democratic ever again.

      You still think Republicans will have elections that aren’t the kind they have in Russia.

      Amazing how many people still think America still works by the rules.

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    axis of evil and has been. you vote democrat, you vote republican, you vote for genocide. simple as.

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      But you do realize that trump is much much much much worse, right? It’s not just about the genocide, you know.

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        These people have enough privilege that they know they won’t be put in the camps first. And they probably think they never will. So it’s no risk to them.

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        i don’t think he’s much much much much worse, that’s too many muchs- maaaybe much much worse- and that’s neither here or there… genocide IS a reasonable red line and you can’t gaslight me off my solid footing in that regard.

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              Than what was happening under the dems.

              It’s already happening. US contractors on the ground, and Trump OKd ramping up in the West Bank which the dems were also blocking

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                which the dems were also blocking

                Which the dems were what? Israel ramped up operations in the West Bank during the war if you remember that. Also at least 200 thousand Gazans have died my man at least wait until something (and no, Trump saying horrible things doesn’t qualify) happens before you say “worse than what was happening under the dems”.

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                  Blocking. They didn’t ramp them up til the level they’re at now until Trump got in for a reason. Adelson didn’t pay 150m for nothing you twat

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        To some people the genocide overshadows anything else because… Y’know, it is/was a genocide. Telling those people that “it’s not just about the genocide” is, frankly, barking up the wrong tree.

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          And yet they did nothing to stop the genocides of brown and queer people in America happening now.

          I guess only one genocide matters. But then that’s been clear to the Sudanese for years now.

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            But then that’s been clear to the Sudanese for years now.

            I mean does America have anything to do with that? Your problem is with the Emirates for supporting that genocide.

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                Okay this was an interesting and informative read but it does nothing to contradict my point. The article is arguing that America didn’t do enough to stop the genocide in Sudan, not that it’s in any way directly supporting the RSF.

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                  What are you even talking about now?

                  This is what I said:

                  I guess only one genocide matters. But then that’s been clear to the Sudanese for years now.

                  That has nothing to do with supporting anyone. Exactly the opposite. People who need support are getting none. Because their genocide does not matter to the world. Which is the same thing that will happen when the genocide of queer people in the U.S. reaches that level.

                  Because queer people don’t matter and if they die, it doesn’t matter. Even if they’re Palestinian. Any Palestinian-American who gets put in a camp for being queer? Who cares when Biden supported the only genocide that’s apparently worth caring about?

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          Personally I’d prefer a single genocide over a genocide, all foreign aid being pulled, dumping vital irrigation reserves, and more.

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      At this point, some people have become walking textbook trolley problems, where to make a choice that makes you moral in one dimension you become a monster in all the others and make everyone worse in the process. But your conscience is safe, thank you for that.

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        it is safe because i didn’t allow myself to reduce supporting genocide to a trolley problem.

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          Reduce? You people spent months reducing all other issues that affect billions of people well into the future like fighting climate change or keeping civil rights or access to healthcare or labour rights or all 900 pages of project 2025 to the one issue where you have no negative leverage either way by voting for president.

          You’re the one dumbing down political debate to a single issue, I just framed it in a way that captures the pattern of hundreds of sterile debates I’ve seen online: you can choose to soil your conscience by collectively choosing to avert disaster or let disaster happen and get nothing in return (probably even worse) for your one cause.

          And the worst part is your vote should not even have been decisive, it should have been easier to get 10% of undecided normies to compensate your reluctant 1%, but they are depoliticized and don’t care if they live in fascism or not anymore.

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            and that’s my prerogative as a voter. are you here to shame me some more? about the genocide i won’t overlook to vote for kamala harris? the same kamala harris who reversed her position on fracking? who wanted to fund nato even harder? you’re gonna tell me she represented a positive position on climate change?? and bath-tub of collard green kamala harris is not doing a damn thing for civil rights, so where are you coming from with this?

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              Eh, I’m venting at this point, as I wrote before, it’s not your even your fault, y’all were probably venting grieving too over months of war crimes, it’s the uninformed normies who don’t care and don’t understand that decided this.

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                This person basically just told you they don’t give a shit about anything but one single genocide. Other genocides, like ones in the U.S.? Don’t matter. Other genocides in other parts of the world? Don’t matter. Climate change potentially killing off the entire species? Don’t matter.

                Which is why single-issue voters are just abhorrent people.

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      Sometimes you have to choose the lesser evil, and you did good in the difference.

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        and sometimes you have a conscience that doesn’t allow you to rationalize away complicity in genocide

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          You are rationalizing away your complicity in the two genocides that are happening in the U.S. right now. To the point that you’ve denied that they are happening in the very recent past.