• Katana314@lemmy.world
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    If US Health Insurance companies are so great at the service they provide, why don’t they take their business internationally? All these other countries must be so exasperated with their useless, inadequate federal healthcare programs.

    Oh, wait, they’re not.

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    That’s basically the worst of all the developed countries with some developing countries doing better than us.

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    What did Brian Thompson do/fail to do that makes this statistic his fault, and for death to be the morally justified consequence?

    Edit: I’ll reframe this as a statement. Celebrating the murder of Brian Thompson and especially advocating for more acts like it is abhorrent behaviour.

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      Yes. We are advocating for more acts. Because their acts have not changed. That’s how cause and effect works.

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      The insurance companies control our healthcare system. He controlled an insurance company. Get it yet?

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      Celebrating the murder of Brian Thompson and especially advocating for more acts like it is abhorrent behaviour.

      No, it is not. The owning class must be pressured into respecting us more than profits. By any means necessary. The government and police will not stop mass social murder, so we must do what we can to save lives.

      The only reason to avoid advocating these acts is that this style of PotD-like adventurism generally isn’t a sustainable tactic, compared to the power of building a mass movement.

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      You think none of the decisions of the CEO of UHC affected this statistic at all? I feel like there’s a LOT of UNC policy that he was involved in that results in worse healthcare in the US, including but not limited to “AI” for denials.

      I don’t think we have a uniform moral calculus, but my personal one doesn’t justify the death penalty in this case. I can imagine a moral calculus that does though: hours of excess suffering caused > expected lifespan = death penalty.

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        I can imagine someone justifying murdering someone who looked at them funny. So what?

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          If a gun is just a tool and the man who weilds it is responsible for the actions of said tool then tell me why should a person who weilds a tool that murders over 50,000 people shouldn’t be responsible for those murders?

          The difference between what they allege Luigi did as opposed to that other shit stain is that the shit stain directly profited from murdering those people, and Luigi is alleged to have done it out of retribution.

          United Healthcare’s profits were around 16+ billion a year in 2024. So let’s say it was only 10 for his 20 years. They would mean Thompson made $200,000,000,000 off murdering over 50,000 people. Not even the devil murders people for money.

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            If a gun is just a tool and the man who weilds it is responsible for the actions of said tool then tell me why should a person who weilds a tool that murders over 50,000 people shouldn’t be responsible for those murders?

            I mean, off the top – intent.

            But let’s break this down. Be specific and map the killer, the gun, and the action of pointing and shooting with intent to kill onto your comparison of Brian, this “tool”, and the actions he took with it.

            United Healthcare’s profits were around 16+ billion a year in 2024.

            And how much did they take in from premiums in 2024? How much of what they took in did they pay out to claimants?

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              The intent was to deny healthcare to enough people to make higher profits. The intent of privatized healthcare is not to save lives but expense them. There is no moral or ethical reason to tell an ER surgeon you will make more money the more surgeries you deny, so why would it make any more sense for the insurance companies to be deciding what procedures should or should not be funded. The only times a procedure should be denied is if there is a limited supply of something, say heart transplants. Even then, it should never be up to the insurance companies, it should be up to the doctors determining the best odds and usage of the shortage to save as many lives as possible.

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          I don’t think you have engaged with any of my arguments. I’m going to block you for a couple of weeks.

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            Your arguments:

            • Asking me if I believed something I didn’t say.
            • Telling me that you have the mental capacity to imagine someone justifying something heinous.

            Gee, what a shame it will be to be cut off from such a mastermind.

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    You should also Luigi anyone you know who voted for Trump. They are directly responsible for everything currently happening and do not deserve to feel safe.

    Edit: Sorry I have no sympathy/empathy for those that voted for Trump. They knew exactly what they were voting for and now we all have to pay for it. They don’t care if people die as long as they get what they want. Fuck em.

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      Did he save it tho?
      Nazi US seems pretty unsaved to me, right now 😌
      Of course, this is a joke and I know you/he mean “he who trys saving his country…” and I know that is a Trump quote

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        Running for office, starting a competitive company, or just general political activism against the people who caused this problem, literally anything.

        Here is the perspective: Luigi was the son of the multimillionaire owner of Mangione Family Enterprises. He had an Ivy League Education and a cushy tech job with 6 figure salary. He 3D printed a gun at home, took $20,000 cash to live off while on the run, and murdered a stranger.

        Imagine how much good you could have done in his position, instead of throwing it all away.

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          there’s no evidence provided yet that it was even Luigi. I’m tired of seeing everyone talking about this like we know he did it. INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

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            So? The criticism is with people celebrating whoever did do it. Whether it’s actually him or not isn’t really relevant to that.

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              That’s what symbols usually do. He represents the hope that equality can still be had. Since it’s so fuckin bleak with your government and due process. We will die waiting for them to change and then they don’t have to listen.

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    Canada is number 32. Maybe the US should become Canada’s fourth territory. We should talk to Premier Trump about it.

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      If you have decent insurance, it’s ok. The problem is it either ties you to your job and/or is very expensive. People fall through the cracks.

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      The US contains some of the best cancer research centers in the world, most of which are non profits. On top of this you genuinely can buy the best care if you can afford it, as top talent across the world go to the US to get rich if they’ve lost all their morals.

      It’s just everyone except the super rich and people with rare cancers that might someday affect rich people that can’t get care without bankruptcy and have to use enshittified hospitals.