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I had a conversation about this with a friend who is racially marginalised but white passing a few weeks ago. She is dating a non-white passing person of colour and it seems very frustrating because she doesn’t feel able to talk about it without complaining to someone who has a worse experience of it.
Is…is this implying you don’t get to talk about your oppression when there’s someone else who’s even more marginalized? Or am I misunderstanding (I hope I am)?
You complain less about your unfortunate circumstances in front of people who have it much worse, at least if you’re nice.
Not pictured: Maggott sitting by himself at his own lunch table.
Similar vibes to Storm (the incredibly powerful mutant with fully hideable powers who is worshipped as a goddess by some cultures) saying ‘we don’t need a cure, we’re perfect as we are’ to Rogue (the mutant who kills everyone she touches).
Storm is right. Rogue’s powers aren’t a disease. Rogue can’t control her powers because of mental health issues. The solution is going to therapy, not taking away her powers.
Imagine you have Tourette’s and can’t stop swearing. Is the cure to Tourette’s to cut your larynx out? No! But that’s effectively what Rogue is asking for in this scene.
Storm is a little bit wrong. There is something wrong with Rogue. But it’s not that she’s a mutant. Storm’s right about that.
I’m not an expert on the psychotherapy of mutants, but in most superhero media (eg Frozen), you have to accept your powers in order to control them. Storm is helping Rogue. Rogue needs to accept that her powers are part of her before she’ll be able to control them
Also, everyone should go listen to The Bright Sessions. It’s a podcast about a psychologist for people with superpowers.
counterpoint: maybe she wouldn’t fucking have mental health issues if she didn’t posses the power to kill people by touch? just a thought
you’re literally just repeating storm’s flawed argument, it’s real easy to say “oh but your power isn’t bad” when you’re not the one unable to touch people without killing them.
Why should people be defined by things like that? shouldn’t they be free to “cure” it if they want?
People do this same thing with all kinds of disabilities, especially stuff like autism/ADHD. “autism is your super power” very easy to say and it sounds nice, but you don’t get to be the arbiter of what’s part of people’s identity. If someone wants to “cure” a thing you don’t think is bad, tough shit! You don’t get a say in it.I’m a transwoman, I’ve definitely heard people tell me I don’t need to transition I can just “Be gay and wear dresses all I want”
I’m not a drag queen or a ladyboy, I’m a woman who used to be trapped in a man’s body. And yes I was a woman trapped in a man’s body
“Oh no you were always a girl.”
No, if I was always a girl then I’d have never had a problem.
I like the mentality of well wishers but Toxic Positivity sucks.
Do you fucking hear yourself? What a goofy thing to say. Her touch kills people. It’s not a minor inconvenience. Mutants deserve medical autonomy to remove their powers if they wish. The cure was pretty magical too. In the movie it wasn’t akin to mutilation at all. Besides, if Cyclops wanted to have his eyes medically removed because he believed they’re just too dangerous, who are we to judge and refuse? It’s none of our business.
If I’m born with a 6th finger there’s not necessarily anything wrong with that but at the same time if I want it amputated that should be my choice and my right.
Accepting yourself is preferable but I think it’s just as valid to make choices about your own life if you can. Whether it’s a disease or not isn’t the issue.
Rogue isn’t making an informed decision. She’s just trauma reacting. If she were my patient, I wouldn’t sign off on a superpowerectomy until she’s made a proper effort to come to terms with her power and control it. Right now, she’s not fully of sound mind with regards to her power. She needs therapy before she can fully understand the choice she wants to make.
Rogue had it rough
Rough had it rogue
Rogue was rough at applying rouge
Roguer, Rouger.
100% Indigenous Canadian me listening to my light skinned city Indian cousin with 1/8 blood ancestry.
For the record, I am a 100% Ojibway from all sides from my family (there might be one European in there somewhere about four generations ago), I grew up a traditional lifestyle and my first language is Ojibway which I still speak (but I have no one left to talk to in my area). I am a big brown long haired Indian that you can’t mistake for someone obviously being different … and seldom seen as an actual Native person … I’m often told that I’m Filipino, Chinese, Japanese or my favourite an overweight Thai.
You have no idea how close to home this comic is to me.
Marvel has always used “mutants” to talk about people who are different without directly talking about the actual real world we live in. They’ve used anti-mutant bias to talk about racism, sexism, religious discrimination, etc. Sometimes people are unable to see their own biases, but when you talk about it being anti-mutant bias, they get it.
Cookie monster beast got me howling
Nah that’s just how my boy Hank used to look before he turned into dog faced furbait
I never got that about Cyclops. If his laser is red, and his glasses are red, wouldn’t that just let the light through? Wouldn’t he need green glasses?
Would just like to add that while they look like lasers coming out of his eyes, they’re actually concussive blasts, fueled by another dimension.
Nah mate, the red lenses are reflecting red light, which is why they appear red. If they absorbed red light they would be absorbing incredible amounts of energy every second and heat up super fast. Because they reflect the energy the energy just goes back through the portals to the dimension that it came from. (Canonically.)
Except, also canonically, his eyes project a beam of concussive, ruby-coloured force. If they’re reflecting the blast, they should be experiencing a huge amount of force, and go flying off his face.
see i’ve always had two pretty massive issues with this: 1) how tf does he see anything if he’s got portals in his eyes, and 2) shouldn’t there be a constant glow from behind his glasses whenever his eyes are open?
Obviously it’s a cartoon and it doesn’t matter, but once you try to explain things you kinda gotta come up with explanations for things like this…And WTF are his eyelids made of??
In a world where mind-reading is possible, I don’t think it’s too difficult to say that his “magic eyes” also still retain the ability to see.
Editor: Why did you make his eyes red?
Artist: Coz of the lazers, duh
Editor: No, I mean why scientifically?!
Artist: (oh shit oh shit)
Editor: WE NEED TO GET OUR SHIT TOGETHER
Editor: CALL NASA, SPARE NO EXPENSE!
(ten convoluted phone calls later)
Artist: … and so the force beam reflects forcelessly off the glasses and back into its home dimension where his optic nerve lives…And it’s actually not light coming out of his eyes, but punch energy.
Mmmmm…fruit juicy red!
Neat! That’s actually cool that it gets explained! I feel much better about that now and can finally sleep after all these years. Thank you.
Also, he has 2 eyes
See, his secret identity works!
When he’s in the field he has a helmet that has only one opening, and they call him cyclops. If the government ever comes looking for a one-eyed mutant called cyclops by his teammates, they’ll never suspect the cool guy with red sunglasses covering his two eyes.
True. He’s actualy Bicyclops.
It could be that Cyclops’s laser is either being absorbed, reflected, or a mix of both.
Who’s cyclop?
Fixed😅🤗
Okay, Beast and Nightcrawler I know, but is that flamehead aka Cage? Not a mutant if so. And who are the other oddities?
Chamber is the flame face, the pink blob with a skeleton is Glob, and the bird one is Beak.
Who is the guy between Beak and Herman?
Chamber I think.
