- “Fully autonomous”. Sure it is.
- “We can touch our community in ways we have never done before.” I’m sure the community will feel especially touched and not at all intimidated by multiton robots rolling through their neighborhoods instead of, I dunno, actual people.
- I’m certain that when one of these maims someone, everyone will run to the head of the line to take responsibility and handle the situation with thoughtfulness and care.
By touch they mean surveillance
Neither of which is good. I don’t want the police touching me or surveilling me.
Nothing that a can of paint or a bucket of tar couldn’t fix.
Throw and run … and the local department would have to spend an hour locating the vehicle to get people to it, then a few hours more towing it back, then days more to clean it up.
Cleanup is absolutely a time burn, but let’s also be real; they’ll go straight to it via GPS tracking and unless you get the windshield real good, someone will just get in and manual drive it back to the station.
True … but it might be time to figure out a liquid combination that stains or is slightly corrosive. You don’t need to melt things, just corrosive enough to etch, mar or deform glass or plastics of sensor lenses.
You clean everything up but realize that the liquid has permanently damaged an imaging lens cover, either with deep stains or corrosion.
Then you replace it but then it costs money and time.
And you do it over and over again
Hydrofluoric acid is really good at etching glass.
But it’s also really good at eating your bones.
Craft stores sell glass(*) etching cream that will absolutely do this (to the types of glass I’ve used it on). Unless there is some super specific chemistry to windshield glass, a jar of that should work.
Edit: spelling
Contain a small amount and seal it inside a glass ball or cylinder … use a slingshot to throw it
I was thinking paintballs ;)
Termite is pretty easy to make and should do the…ok, pretty much every job
In my experience, they might not clean their own vehicles. They get people serving community service hours for petty crimes to do it for them.
Or so I’m told.
I know for a fact one of the cities in my area uses the people who are in the city jail for unpaid fines. They get $50 off their fine… by doing all the labor of the jail, like washing the floor, cooking the food, and yes, washing the cop cars.
Indentured servitude. Nice!
Got to love how the 13th amendment made an exception for prisoners.
Yeah, I think they get away with it because it’s voluntary, and (more importantly) no one (with power) cares about prisoners. If you had to sit in jail for six days, but could get out in four by doing the extra work, it might be worth it. It also gets you out of the cells, I guess.
We had to to clean and detail courthouse workers’ (judges, DA, etc) personal vehicles for community service as children.
It had a drone attached to it, that would follow you and record you as you run
Balloon or multiple balloons attached to 80lbs fishing line
or conversely, a small hex nut tied to the end of a line fed by a spool of 80lbs fishing line with about 40 feet of line … then use a slingshot aimed at the drone … launch several lines until one gets caught
Nothing a fan of silly string won’t fix.
Also, there’s wasp and hornet killer cans that shoot 30+feet. Likely enough sticky liquid in there to bring down a little drone.
The right fire extinguisher will make a cloud of visibility cover…
Plenty of low-tech “solutions”.
You’re just wasting tax payer dollars, unfortunately
No. You’re spending tax payer dollars to send a message that the tax payers didn’t want their dollars spent on unmanned police surveillance.
Seems more like a marketing stunt. Emphasis by me:
The PUG will eventually be allowed to drive the streets of Miami-Dade unmanned after a healthy amount of community feedback, the sheriff said. But a deputy will be in the front seat as the vehicle drives itself — for at least the first year.
I think I’ve spotted a Ford logo on the car. And to my knowledge they’re nowhere near autonomous driving as of today?! Wikipedia says they’re at SAE level 2, while something in the general direction of autonomy would be level 4 or 5, with the added complexity that they’d need special software and AI training for emergency situations. Which probably doesn’t exist either. So I seriously doubt it’ll be able to do any proper police work in a year. It might be able to autonomously grab a box of donuts from their favorite store by then. And I suppose that could make their day better. But more than that is going to prove difficult… And the drone might be useful, as far as I know drones can really help with police and fire and rescue tasks.
It is a (not really) autonomous vehicle that serves as a launchpad for a drone, which is the thing that does the reconnaissance.
Like they could just put drones on regular vehicles, but they want to pretend it is something more than that.
This isn’t from ford, they mention in the video is donated by another company
The electronics might not be from Ford but that vehicle is a Ford Explorer, and probably one with the police package. Ford sells a police package Explorer to several police departments in the US.
It is a safe guess that nobody has self driving Fords more advanced than Ford.
Yes. That’s what I meant. I’d bet this “Policing Lab” is closer to MTV’s Pimp my Ride with Xzibit, than a research institute outperforming Ford at their own cars with cutting-edge research on Lidar, sensor fusion and custom AI training… They likely have someone who does the vinyl on the car, someone who cuts a hole in the roof so the drone can be deployed and an electrician to wire everything to 2 computers and 3 smartphones. Only difference they don’t install a whirlpool and a sound system in the back. Okay, there has to be a bit more to this story, but they omit all the interesting (technical) details, I wonder why…
Edit: And reading their website makes me reconsider what I just said. Seems they have some other surveillance tech to sell and embedded and AI assistance and optimization. Could be a marketing campaign to sell the other stuff. And they themselves don’t write a lot about self-driving. From what I gather on their website, the car is supposed to sit somewhere, as deterrence, and provide a live video-feed and scan license plates. That’s what it does autonomously, not really drive on its own. And then there’s the drone on top and the entire car can be used as an intercom.
Maybe…
My brother bought a subaru, and then purchased a third party device that interfaced with the car’s sensors and made it mostly self-driving. It could handle navigating from his house in an area not quite fully urban, to the main roads, then to the highway, then to wherever his destination was without any input from him aside from the address. None of that was offered from subaru. I wouldn’t doubt something similar could be done with other manufacturer’s vehicles/sensor systems.
Sometimes the car manufacturer just doesn’t want to implement something like that, while the capability exists.
So its a police car driving around. What if someone actually needs help? What can just a car do?
This whole idea is so utterly stupid, I’m at loss of words.
It can’t do anything to help anyone, but it’s essentially a mobile Flock camera with license plate tracking and facial recognition. It’s a privacy nightmare, and a massive legal liability for the city (Benn Jordan has an excellent video on his YouTube about Flock cameras and how bad they are). Best case scenario is it drives through a deep puddle during the next hurricane and shorts itself out.
I agree. I know your post was serious but I couldn’t help thinking of that green goblin truck from that Stephen King movie where tech comes alive. I’m imagine a police car watching a crime in progress and revving it’s engine to intimate them.
that Stephen King movie where tech comes alive.
Maximum Overdrive.
That’s the one! Thank you
I was waiting the whole video for them to explain even one actually useful aspect of this idea, and at the very end a cop says “it can deploy a drone.”
It’ll run them over! Obviously. Easiesy way to solve any problem is to just run them all over.
It can call humans to beat the shit out of you
Came here for this. Lemmy does not disappoint
It’s just disgusting they have the money for this.
Video said it was donated by the company that made it, not that that’s better. Next step autonomous officers donated by Totally Not Killbots LLC
I was looking for the ED-209 comment! I wonder if that is going to be the license plate?
I mean they did describe it as “the future of law enforcement”
I’m only disappointed I had to scroll so far for the robocop reference.
So you can send the car in and it will deploy a drone eh
How about you just deploy a drone
So if it runs over a pedestrian who gets the vacation?
It’s programmed to run over ethnics and then start yelling “HE’S GOT A GUN!” through the speaker while rolling back and forward.
This is also the state were they legalized running over protesters with your car, so maybe they just want this so that they can stop giving the cops PTSD.
This bad boy can do all the civilian striking on aidewalks for you and you dont even have to borher fixing the autonomous part.Queue the scene in V For Vendetta with cars monitoring everyone’s phone calls as it drives around.
Except this fucker can deploy a drone that flies right up to your window and records you
That was real life not a movie thing. Literally without exaggeration. At the time that movie was made the famous tech for that was called The Stingray.
We still call them Stingrays.
That is a brand name like kleenex,we have many more products to be scared of <3
“For us, it’s a way we can touch our community like we never have before”
… By deploying driverless cruisers?
Finally, hiding in shrubbery will be a thing of the past for the criminal underbrush.
Interesting, how does insurance work if the PUG vehicle hits a non/motorist… so then no one is to blame then??
The cruiser gets suspended on full pay pending an internal investigation.
Taxpayers pay everything
If a citizen is crushed by ChatGPT pretending to be a cop and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
